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1 posted on 08/29/2012 11:43:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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George Will is full of self importance, that’s what I say.


2 posted on 08/29/2012 11:56:30 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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There’s no doubt conservatives are energized. The Rats have managed to get us even more motivated than in 2010. But we’re still not an absolute majority - we need a fair number of independents to buy into our message.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 12:16:32 AM PDT by aquila48
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I don't get it. Is George Will actually pretending that Mitt is conservative or is that the bluff he is asking about?

I'm just so tried of this pretense that suddenly conservative doesn't include traditional values.

Just stop bothering me. Mitt? Never!

7 posted on 08/30/2012 12:17:43 AM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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Good article. Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 08/30/2012 12:19:11 AM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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Good article by George... wish he would use a clearer term than “rent-seeker”. That makes it sound like someone renting out an apartment or house is bad. I can think of a much more lucid replacement term - “favor-seeker”.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 12:31:07 AM PDT by aquila48
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Will long ago became an insufferable, condescending a-hole who has convinced himself he’s the only intelligent creature on the planet. He believes humans are incapable of acting from altruistic motives. No matter our beliefs, we simply are stupid sheep following the command of our masters. Jerk-off.


11 posted on 08/30/2012 12:32:03 AM PDT by twister881
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Walter Mondale, conceding to Ronald Reagan after the 1984 election, listed the groups he thought government should assist: “the poor, the unemployed, the elderly, the handicapped, the helpless and the sad.” Yes, the sad.

Looking forward to his upcoming appearance drooling in Charlotte.

14 posted on 08/30/2012 12:45:38 AM PDT by cynwoody
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I work with a bunch of people who claim to be conservative but really are a bunch of jealous populists who love Obama’s class warfare. They genuinely believe the media's portrayal of Sarah Palin. They like shooting and hunting but still support the gun grabbing usurper.
19 posted on 08/30/2012 1:06:49 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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What say you?

I say George is stating the obvious with words the opposition is not capable of understanding.

Preaching to the choir.

21 posted on 08/30/2012 1:32:52 AM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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I say keep the elite in the dark.


22 posted on 08/30/2012 1:38:58 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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The basis of his argument is this: Paul Ryan is a conservative. By picking Ryan as VP, willard has taken some sort of risk. What that risk is, I have no idea. Anyway, what george wants us to believe is that this somehow gives the whole ticket the Magic, Invincible Cloak of Conservatism. And thus it’s time for the 2/3 of Americans who identify themselves as conservative to put up by voting for willard, or shut up.

Now that’s a fine argument if you accept the premise that the willard/Ryan ticket is actually conservative. Precisely one half is: the part that gets a vote in the senate on the off chance that there is a tie vote. The guy at the top of the ticket is about as conservative as bj clinton.

So what say me? I say that george will is deserving of Gold Star status in the Elite League of romney Apologists.


40 posted on 08/30/2012 6:10:31 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WILLARD 2012 - It's not just a campaign, it's a conservative suicide pact!)
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The column was written to show how smart Will is.

Where is the clear simple discussion of CONSERVATIVE
principles?

NO to DEATH PANELS.
NO to OBAMACARE.
NO to TARP.
NO to TAXES.
NO to CZARS.
NO to NO accountability.


42 posted on 08/30/2012 8:25:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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>>>”Nov. 6 we will know if they mean it.”

This article reminded me of Eric Fromm’s “Escape From Freedom.”


47 posted on 08/30/2012 9:31:08 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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The problem is, conservatives are holding a pair of 2’s.


48 posted on 08/30/2012 9:32:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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Bump.

Great piece and necessary reading.


49 posted on 08/30/2012 9:56:57 AM PDT by mojito
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Ryan is a token conservative. The convention is designed to “keep” the conservative vote.

Its just SHAM-WOW.

Romney will never follow a generally conservative policy nor will he undo the damage Obama has done to our nation and diminish the role of government interference in the lives of free Americans.

Eff the GOP. Its dead and dying.It does not represent the People, and in truth is seeking to marginalize conservative Tea Party people, while spouting conservative platitudes at the convention.

I will not vote for any RINO, certainly not for Romney. I will vote only Tea Party where they are offered as candidates.

George sWill needs to be a baseball commissioner. No, conservatives are NOT bluffing, and it scares the hell out of Romney, who did not even invite Sarah Palin to speak? Eff him.Romney is going down.

We will elect a full slate of Tea Party cadidates in 2016 after Obama finishes ruining America just like Romney intends to do as a RINO.

Conservatives will take back this country one seat at a time in the Senate and the House.The presidency is lost to us for now and the next 4 years.


51 posted on 08/30/2012 10:09:46 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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I think that Will has a better understanding of conservative principles than he does of conservative practices. This is particularly good:

Today’s Democratic Party does not understand what one of its saints understood — that big government is generally a patron of the privileged, a partner of rent-seekers.

For all of the pretensions that big government, especially the Democrat form of it, is on the side of the "little guy" no such thing has ever really developed, nor is it easy to understand why anyone thinking of government on that scale could ever believe that it could.

As Cost rightly says, “With the exception of the tea party, there is no real faction out there making the Jacksonian case for an end to special privilege.”

True enough, but there I would couch the explanation in terms slightly different from Will's: the Tea Parties are an expression of the only extant populist movement in the exact sense of the word; what has been portrayed as populist movements in the movements for racial, sexual, and other class entitlements are nothing of the sort. These are top-down organizations led by the same elite cadre that populates high office under the Democrats (and not just under the Democrats, but that is another conversation) - it is simply a ruling class wearing another mask. No wonder the Jesse Jacksons, the Gloria Steinems, the union leaders interface so smoothly with high office in the current administration - they're all the same people. And the movements they lead, far from being populist, are in fact merely the Establishment under another guise.

That explains the horror and disdain with which Tea Party enthusiasms are regarded by these and by those other members of the ruling class that happen to have found a home in the broadcast and print media. Will knows this perfetly well. He is, however, a member in good standing of this same class and frankly, his living and his social status depend on it. We should probably be grateful for these glimpses of sanity, these moments of clarity on his part.

52 posted on 08/30/2012 10:16:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Romney is playing chicken with the GOP base. He should be fighting Obama, but I guess he knows what he’s doing.


56 posted on 08/30/2012 11:13:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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