I am sure Sarah will help us lead the Charge!
Posted on 08/29/2012 3:15:38 PM PDT by NYer
“A Third Party would guarantee rule by disciples of Bill Ayers for decades...if not longer.”
If things don’t correct themsleves in the next 2-3 years, it is a gamble worth taking. It’d be so simple to slam both existing parties on every issue.
I am sure Sarah will help us lead the Charge!
I Lurk.. Many things today had me wish to express opinions. On this, should we not double down on our efforts within the R party? Uphill battle, yes.. We support the existing partners (they will w/o a doubt need support) we pick the seats we need. A third party makes for an easy target.. “All in the party are “Palinized” or what I’ve used for years “Quayled”.. Support a voice in the party??? The Dems will love this idea of a split, as will the RINO’s.
I still think the Michigan rout in the Michigan convention that removed the number 1 Romney operative (Saul Anuzis) played a big pat in the GOPe behavior yesterday. Anuzis is a hardcore progressive scumbag who voted for the after the primary rule change that took the Michigan tie and gave it to Romney. He got in trouble a year or so back for pimping the national popular vote using official GOP stationary and just turned up today pimping green jobs.
http://www.rightmichigan.com/story/2012/5/20/104733/048
>>Conservatives working in unison at the State Republican Convention sent a message to the establishment loud and clear: “It’s our turn!”...No more `business as usual’ politics orchestrated to appease the political masses with hollow claims of conservatism and principles each election cycle, only to disappear into the maze of lobbyists and special interests in the interim...This time, the false claims of an election year cycle fell on deaf ears, conservatism ruled the day...Libertarians, Tea Partiers, and true Republican conservatives unified in one of the most sweeping upsets of the incumbent power brokers I have seen in my lifetime...they have sent both the State and National GOP a clear ultimatum...This time we will not be silent, nor ignored, nor brushed aside...<<
The GOP elite should always fear the emergence of an independent conservative party. It is the only real leverage conservatives have as long as the GOPussys are in charge.
It is when they DON’T fear a third party that they have the conservatives hostage.
Whatever one might think of the most prominent individuals at this years convention: Romney of Ma, Ryan of Wi, Priebus of Wi, Christie of NJ, Boehner of Oh, and others, none of them are from a reliably Republican state.
Of the states that can truly be called “red states”, we see very little representation in the key positions of this year’s Republican party and convention.
Conservatives have been pushed to the side in many ways, and if the Rinos in charge, Rinos from states that rarely vote Republican, if they stray too far, that might set off a serious initiative to form a third party among conservatives from states which actually reliably vote for Republicans.
They are definitely taking the true base of the party for granted, if not worse.
Lol, like the socialist GOP is really any better then the Marxists rats? Today we are ruled by 1 party, the Marxists/Socailist party, Dems/GOP. Time for a real second party.
The media’s going to attach baggage to you no matter what you call yourself. Just look at the Tea Party. No point in trying to play by their rules and run away from who you are. If the media defines you, you define yourself and them instead.
I say go with the Tea Party. Name recognition is a HUGE factor in marketing yourselves. The Tea Party, unlike other parties, has that. An unrecognizable name is far harder to succeed with than a name that might have a negative connotation, but is known.
And I say have a party platform and any candidate who doesn’t stick to it gets their funding cut off.
“Personally I think one problem with the GOP is the fact that democrats were driven out of their party by the marxists and have nested in the GOP and driven it left.”
I’d not thought that through. Interesting. I am still inclined to see more the old malignancies of Prescott Bush, George Romney and the whole Rockefeller wing rising from the crypt in new iterations, rather than more recent degradation from ‘blue dog’ types. Certainly it is and may prove to be a fruitful marriage for the advancement of progressive agendas and policies. Damned revenants.
Interesting though. I am going to chew on that one.
“A new conservative party, such as the Constitution Party, could be a place where conservatives of all stripes can unify without the old GOP baggage.”
Yes. I know I am not bringing any souvenirs, love letters or photos out with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG-0BWLybIQ&feature=related
I think what happened was G.W. Bush went so far to the left on spending and entitlements under Rove’s direction to presumably get more votes (and increase Rove’s status, wealth and power as a consultant), that it forced the Democrats to go even further left, push for Obamacare and this great expansion of the welfare state. Now the Republicans simply don’t even have to go back to the right to distinguish themselves from the Democrats. They can stay center-left, and they still look like a distinct alternative compared to the Commie-crats.
As for why we couldn’t win a presidential primary even though we’ve been doing great in Congressional primaries, I don’t know. Why wasn’t there a bunch of real conservative money going into a real conservative candidate for president? Do real conservatives not have the money, only wealthy urban elite RINOs from those blue cancerous sores on the map known as big cities? Because those people will always despise the “God and guns” crowd for deep cultural reasons that transcend politics. And they associate conservatives with the South and the “God and guns” crowd, call them “extremists” and hate them.
My friend I love your logic, but not the name.
Methinks she has no intentions of renewing it....the feeling is mutual.
Best tweet I got today
No justice no peace
No ticky no washy
No Sarah no watchy
Why isn’t anyone saying that a viable third party simply needs to be called the Conservative Party, since that’s what it already is?
Some of the little splinters like the Constitution Party (I mean no disrespect to them) would come on board.
Or maybe I’m just into wishful thinking.
Another version of,”I like Sarah But”. Sorry,we ain’t buying it. You haven’t ever liked Sarah!
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