Obama finalizes auto mileage mandate

The Hill ^ | August 28, 2012 | Ben Geman & Keith Laing

[philman_36]

Until a mileage tax obliterates those savings.

Exactly! See my 37.

[reg45]

Insane peopleLawyers and bureaucrats think their wishes can be imposed on reality.

[bmwcyle]

Next waivers for companies that give him money.

[jazusamo]

Bump!

[SpaceBar]

Hydrogen powered cars would be good...

You bought the lie. The left has gotten inside your head like the proverbial foot in the cracked door.

[Ol' Sox]

Here's another. All government workers, including and especially elected officials, must drive the vehicles that exceed the average MPG proposal.

[jazusamo]

Next waivers for companies that give him money.

If that turkey is reelected I've no doubt that's what will happen.

[lacrew]

“Most motorcycles don’t get this MPG”

Exactly.

But don’t discount the dishonest ‘MPGe’ rating, given to electric vehicles. The ‘e’ stands for equivalent, and the EPA uses trickery to calculate it. The Volt gets 98 mpge, for example. So, all an automaker has to do to meet new standards is....sell more Volts!.

Ths isn’t a law to increase fuel economy...its a law to foist more electric vehicles on the public.

And it also makes it particularly difficult to sell pickup trucks, which might be useful to people who want to start a small (non-union) business, etc.

[Jeff Chandler]

President Obama .. noting that by 2025 cars will get almost twice the mileage they provide today.

So let it be written; so let it be done.

[Jeff Chandler]

Hydrogen powered cars would be good

Why? And How?

[Jeff Chandler]

Try Again

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Ths isn’t a law to increase fuel economy...its a law to foist more electric vehicles on the public.”

Correct.

[ltc8k6]

54.5 CAFE is something like 26-44 actual, depending on vehicle size. 26 for a pickup, and 44 for a compact car.

So, it’s nowhere near as bad as it seems.

But we still don’t need CAFE.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Obama lies with even greater ease than Clinton. I didn’t think that was possible.

[SpaceBar]

You know what would be good? A liquid at room temperature/pressure hydrocarbon mixture consisting of branched units in the roughly six to nine carbon range, that could be dispensed from conventional pumps, burns cleanly in properly maintained engines, can be stored in mundane plastic or metal containers, doens't attack butyl rubber hoses and seals, and has a tremendous energy density compared to other conventional chemical fuels. You know, kinda like gasoline. Unfortunately the government itself has been tireless using every trick to convince people otherwise, and if that doesn't work, just make it unaffordable.

[Tvrm]

What is a lie is the amount of savings the individual will enjoy due to the better gas mileage. How will all the roads and bridges be repaired if no one is paying high taxes (gasoline)? They will figure and are in the process (GPS) of keeping up the revenue stream. They will start promoting that if they had not done this look at how much it would be costing us......There will be no savings!!!

[Slyfox]

From an automotive engineering newsletter:

DO YOU APPRECIATE THE LAW OF PHYSICS?

A very big thanks to Michigan member M.P. who sent in this bit of humor, which was forwarded from a senior-level person at Chrysler. The date on this note was Sunday, July 19, 2009:

Monday morning, I attended a breakfast meeting where the speaker/guest was D.C., Chairman of the Center for Automotive Research (CAR and Professor at U. of M.). you all have likely heard CAR quoted, or referred to in the auto industry news lately.

Mr. C., who is an engineer by training, told many stories of the difficulty working with the folks that the Obama administration has sent to save the auto industry. There have been many meetings where a 30+ year experienced automotive expert has to listen to a newcomer to the industry, someone with ZERO manufacturing experience, ZERO auto industry experience, ZERO finance experience and ZERO engineering experience, tell them how to run their business.

MR. C.'s favorite story is as follows:

There was a team of Obama people speaking to Mr. C. (engineer, automotive experience of 40+ years, and Chairman of CAR). They were explaining to Mr. C. that the auto companies needed to make a car that was electric and liquid natural gas (LNG) with enough combined fuel to go 500 miles so we wouldn't "need" so many gas stations (a whole other topic). They were quoting BTUs of LNG and battery life that they had looked up on some website.

Mr. C. explained that to do this you would need a TRUNK FULL of batteries and a LNG tank as big as the car to make that happen, and that there were problems related to the laws of physics that prevented them from...

The Obama person interrupted and said (and I am quoting here):

"These laws of physics? Whose rules are those? We need to change that."

(Some of the others wrote down the law so they could look it up later.)

"We have the congress and administration. We can repeal that law, amend it, or use an executive order to get rid of that problem. That's why we are here, to fix these sort of issues."

.......And these are the people who are going to fix healthcare.

[jazusamo]

Shaking head...It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad, but not too surprising and these idiots are running the government.

It seems all the Obama people are like that and the few that weren't took a hike because they were smart enough to be embarrassed.

[Slyfox]

What is true is that the actions of Obama and his people can not stand the test of time.

Let us pray that their removal is quick.

[Minutemen]

Whatever 0bama wishes, it can and will be done!