Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Paradox; Alamo-Girl; Agamemnon; hosepipe; TXnMA
Nye said that while many adults may believe in creationism, children should be taught evolution in order to understand science. Absent a grasp of evolution, he said, “You’re just not going to get the right answers.” And he called evolution the “fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology.”

From the above statements, I don't see in what way I "sound much like Bill Nye." I strongly disagree with these statements. Rather I would ask: The "right answers" — about what?

Where is life and mind in Darwin's theory? It seems to posit these as epiphenomena of random material change, plus natural selection (nature being viewed as a "just-so" material system). But think about it: Does that really make sense?

BTW, how can evolution be the “fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology," when it has absolutely nothing to say about what life IS, or how it arose? And ditto for mind (psyche, or consciousness).

Perhaps science hasn't got a method to address this issue. But that doesn't make such questions "go away."

Anyhoot, please don't take my criticism personally. I was only responding to certain statements you made, which are typical of a person who holds the "accepted dogma." I was merely trying to point out that science could do itself a whole lot of good by questioning its presuppositions from time to time.

May God bless you and your kids!

103 posted on 09/02/2012 10:56:05 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | View Replies ]


To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; Whosoever

[... How can evolution be the “fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology,” when it has absolutely nothing to say about what life IS, or how it arose? And ditto for mind (psyche, or consciousness) ....]

Damn good questions.. Living tissue looks exactly like dead tissue.. The difference is a “mystery”... You know to science d;-).... Much projections of political ideology replaces real answers.. about What life “IS”... and by the way what life ISN’T... Death is as mysterious as life is..

Religious groupies have a “million” other “answers”...
What is being “conscious”?.. and if you be “Aware” how aware are you... and of “What”?... What have you “Missed”?..

Darwin and Marx were indeed like Chimpanzees inspecting a ROLEX Watch.. They liked the “shine”... and the shape was interesting.. but they liked the cheaper watchs better with the “ticking”... They liked the ticking.. To them.... what good was a watch that did’nt “TICK”?...


104 posted on 09/02/2012 2:47:04 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies ]

To: betty boop; Paradox; Agamemnon; hosepipe; TXnMA
BTW, how can evolution be the “fundamental idea in all of life science, in all of biology," when it has absolutely nothing to say about what life IS, or how it arose? And ditto for mind (psyche, or consciousness).

So very true, dearest sister in Christ!

The theory of evolution is incomplete. Darwin never asked or answered "what is life v. non-life/death in nature."

And decades later, after the discovery of information theory (Shannon) and DNA (Crick, Watson) - biologists still avoid the question.

Oh sure they can tell us what living things "look like" but they cannot say what life "is." That even though "life" is the subject of biology. LOL!

Fortunately, physicists and mathematicians have been brought to the table. And they are interested in those questions (Rosen, et al.)

106 posted on 09/03/2012 9:50:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson