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Soldiers allegedly plotted to kill Obama, oust government (credibility Zero)
The Hill ^ | 08/27/12 04:08 PM ET | Jeremy Herb

Posted on 08/27/2012 9:07:48 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Army soldiers formed a militia group in Georgia that plotted to overthrow the U.S. government — and they killed a fellow soldier and his girlfriend to keep the plot secret, prosecutors alleged Monday, according to the Associated Press.

Prosecutors in the Long County, Ga., case say that the militia group planned to overtake the nearby Fort Stewart, to bomb a dam in Washington state and poison the state’s apple crop and ultimately overthrow the government and assassinate the president, according to reports.

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To: Secret Agent Man
and blpwing up a dam really endears gets the citizenry to back their cause.

Rebuilding the dam was the number one project in their proposed jobs program after taking power.

81 posted on 08/28/2012 11:10:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Sometimes “ex” government employees (like military) are those who’ve been kicked out because of criminal infractions.

These numbnuts were recruiting those who’d been kicked out or were up on charges.

The Colorado shooter had been kicked out in the 1990s but it didn’t keep them from calling him a former soldier.

The NYC fashion designer was in the Coast Guard in the 1970s and that was mentioned in accounts of his “attack” (where more people were injure by police fire than his own).


82 posted on 08/28/2012 11:13:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I wouldn’t expect that there is much of this type of lunacy in the Tea Party movement. How can I come to this conclusion?

Government agencies do a good job of infiltrating various groups. Clearly the Tea Party is on the radar of the Obama administration, Democrat Party, and Republican Party establishment.

There was even some government infiltration for monitoring purposes in the group that plotted to firebomb the 2008 GOP convention and kidnap delegates.

We hear semi-frequently about domestic bomb plots where some jihadist wannabe is suckered into pushing the detonator for a non-bomb. You’d think if there was the likelihood of someone being seduced into such activity “within” the Tea Part movement, the government would have already exploited such a “fine example”.

It is a different mettle of character. One that seeks to PRESERVE this nation, not overthrow its institutions.


83 posted on 08/28/2012 11:21:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: procrustes

Means nothing. A Code Pink agent secured a ringside seat at the 2008 GOP convention and she heckled John McCain DURING his acceptance speech.

Infiltration for the purposes of observation comes in all political stripes.


84 posted on 08/28/2012 11:24:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Texas Fossil

So retarded government employees started yet another “militia group.” Most of the recent terrorists in the news have been sexually confused weirdos and other lefties.


85 posted on 08/28/2012 3:29:52 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop; kiryandil

Yep


86 posted on 08/28/2012 3:50:05 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: procrustes
Anarchist Leader In Assassination Plot Was Apparently A Page At The 2008 GOP Convention

hee hee hee those are normally reserved to young college kids. I so NO significance in that. I was a delegate at the TX GOP Convention in 2008 and again this year. No great shakes there either (but I do not plot to overthrow the government). May I remind you that I doubt this whole episode is real. More Fed overreach imagined stuff.

87 posted on 08/28/2012 4:04:35 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
"May I remind you that I doubt this whole episode is real. More Fed overreach imagined stuff."

Yep. A few individuals temporarily in high places sometimes get a little overly excited. We saw it surface during the '90s, and we might be seeing some of it again.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
     Hysteric.] (Med.)
     A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
     in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
     exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
     so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
     the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
     paroxism or fits.
     [1913 Webster]
  
     Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
           the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
           and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
           throat. The affection presents the most varied
           symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
           diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
           alone. Hysteric



How Dramatically Did Women's Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?

JOHN R. LOTT Jr.
American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (download links for whole document at bottom of page)

September 1998

University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 60
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, Number 6, Part 1, pp. 1163-1198, December 1999

Abstract:
This paper examines the growth of government during this century as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional time-series data for 1870 to 1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American government started growing when it did.


88 posted on 08/28/2012 8:22:21 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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