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Police: All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers
CNN ^ | Sat Aug 25, 2012 | David Ariosto, CNN

Posted on 08/25/2012 9:17:40 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

New York (CNN) -- All nine people injured in Friday's shooting in front of the Empire State Building were wounded by police gunfire, New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly told reporters Saturday.

The officers unloaded a total of 16 rounds at a disgruntled former apparel designer, killing him after he shot and killed a co-worker and engaged in a gunbattle with police, authorities have said.

Police said an investigation is under way after one officer shot nine rounds while another shot seven. Three victims suffered gunshot wounds, while the remaining six were hit by fragments.

The gunman, who served in the U.S. Coast Guard in the late 1970s, had two rounds left in his .45-caliber pistol. It holds eight rounds, Kelly said.

The violence erupted Friday morning just as visitors began to queue up to ascend the famous New York skyscraper in one of Manhattan's busiest neighborhoods.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: nyc; nypd; shooting
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To: suthener

There was a police officer in my city who was seriously wounded several years ago when a guy pulled a gun and shot him during a traffic stop. He was on the ground, gut shot, and managed to pull his gun, shoot and kill the perp. He said that during the whole incident, everything was moving in slow motion and he could hear his range instructor in his head saying, “SQUEEZE the trigger! SQUEEZE the trigger!”


81 posted on 08/25/2012 10:21:08 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: carriage_hill
It is obvious to the casual observer that New York City needs more gun control.

A revised training program for the NYPD should do it.
Better training and more range time would aid Police officers in learning to control their guns much better and greatly improve their accuracy.


82 posted on 08/25/2012 10:21:08 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: ErnBatavia

LOL!


83 posted on 08/25/2012 10:21:43 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: carriage_hill

NYPD uses the 9mm in round nose full metal jacket configuration. This round is a lose -lose. Not as immediately effective against the bad guy, more likely to overpenetrate and hit bystanders. Hollow points are not only more effective, but less likely to go through and through and hit anyone else.
Last, that NYPD technique of magazine emptying is also a redirection of server training deficiencies.

They are an embarrassment.


84 posted on 08/25/2012 10:27:15 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: rabidralph

Wowzer, just saw it! Yikes, that’s some shaky tactical work and they’re lucky it wasn’t worse.


85 posted on 08/25/2012 10:27:39 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: rabidralph
NYC Cops are lazy incompetent and out of control.

But then so are all the rest of NYC "employees".

86 posted on 08/25/2012 10:27:44 AM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: carriage_hill
Looks like the NYPD needs to apply Sheriff Andy Taylor's 'Barney' rule; that from now on all NYPD officers get issued only one bullet and they must carry it in their pocket. ;-)
87 posted on 08/25/2012 10:28:52 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: penelopesire

Maybe Bloomie could compromise on that idea and just have the cops patrol without ammunition! /s ;^)


88 posted on 08/25/2012 10:30:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Doesn’t the NYPD use some insane trigger pull on their Glocks, like 11 lb.?


89 posted on 08/25/2012 10:30:35 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: suthener

I did, and am truly amazed that one or both cops are still alive. The shooter had them in a major disadvantage for 2-3 secs, easily enough time to take them down.


90 posted on 08/25/2012 10:31:37 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: qman

The cops used fine judgment. The should have immediately shot him. The problem is that they use a very poor style of bullet, and have horrendous marksmanship.
Lawsuits are used to correct such goings on.


91 posted on 08/25/2012 10:35:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: RFEngineer

If Doomberg wasn’t a nanny-stater, and we get someone in office that trusts the people at large to be responsible in defending themselves, then it would’ve been over before the 911 dispatcher sent out a couple of units.


92 posted on 08/25/2012 10:38:15 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: wastedyears

Me too; I happened upon the breaking CNN article and was stunned. I’d think Bloom-Turd & Kelly would have covered-it-up to avoid many millions in certain lawsuits and much criticism.


93 posted on 08/25/2012 10:39:56 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: qman

The cops used fine judgment. The should have immediately shot him. The problem is that they use a very poor style of bullet, and have horrendous marksmanship.
Lawsuits are used to correct such goings on.


94 posted on 08/25/2012 10:41:14 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Was that I think when White Snake was playing?


95 posted on 08/25/2012 10:42:52 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: carriage_hill

9mm


96 posted on 08/25/2012 10:43:51 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: rabidralph
I watched the video too and it did look like the one cop almost shot his partner!

I was walking through Times Square once when this kid came flying past me and I heard all this shouting. I turned around and two cops on foot came running up the sidewalk and people were pointing this way and that and yelling. "There he goes! He went that way!" Then a cop on a horse came through the crowd. It was crazy and you could tell that the cops didn't trust anything people were shouting. Scary part was, you didn't know where to go to get out of the way. Fortunately no one was shooting in that situation.

97 posted on 08/25/2012 10:45:41 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: TigersEye

Maybe Bloomberg has been following the hiring practices of Holder’s DOJ:

Holder Justice Department Recruits Dwarfs, Schizophrenics, and the ‘Intellectually Disabled’
The PJ Tatler has obtained documents from the Justice Department detailing efforts to recruit attorneys and staff who are dwarfs or who have “psychiatric disabilities” or “severe intellectual disabilities.”  On May 31, 2012, Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez issued a directive to affirmatively recruit people with these “targeted disabilities.” 

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/08/21/justice-department-recruits-dwarfs/


98 posted on 08/25/2012 10:46:06 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: beenaround
Misses? I thought they shot nine people?

Read the post. 3 hit by gunshots, the rest were hit by fragments flying.

99 posted on 08/25/2012 10:48:09 AM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: wastedyears

Yep.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2922770/posts?page=32#32


100 posted on 08/25/2012 10:48:27 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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