Vets Being Rounded Up Nationwide?

Western Journalism ^ | August 24, 2012

[KeyLargo]

ObamaCare Decision Means Feds Will Continue to Cull Gun Owner Information

Posted on June 28, 2012 by Ammoland

While the decision means many harmful things for the American public, the Second Amendment community remains greatly affected,

[GOA’s John Velleco was at the U.S. Supreme Court today to speak with media about how the ObamaCare decision negatively impacts gun owners.] as the law requires Americans’ medical information to be culled and entered into a national database.

Centralizing these medical records will allow the FBI to troll a list of Americans for ailments such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) to deny them their gun rights, in the same way that the Veterans Administration has already denied more than 150,000 veterans their right to bear arms.

Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2012/06/28/obamacare-decision-means-feds-will-continue-to-cull-gun-owner-information/#ixzz24kw6Tl00

[KeyLargo]

Expect to see more of this leftist doctor attitude towards gun owners when Obamacare is up and running full bore next year.

As a doctor, I’m going to keep asking about guns

by Suzanne Koven, MD on August 8th, 2012 | in Physician| 64 responses

...What I’m thinking about today is the role doctors and other health professionals do and should play in preventing the 30,000 deaths and many more injuries in which firearms are involved every year in the U.S.

Behind the closed doors of my exam room, I ask patients many very personal questions: about their sexual behavior, alcohol and drug use, domestic violence, and other sensitive issues.

But there are no questions I ask–and I ask them routinely, especially of new patients–that meet with more surprise than these: “Do you own any firearms? Do you keep them locked and inaccessible to children?”

I believe the questions come as a surprise because people don’t usually think of gun ownership as something about which a doctor would or should be concerned....

http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2012/08/doctor-guns.html

[Ron H.]

Thanks for the info and the link.

[Ron H.]

But there are no questions I ask–and I ask them routinely, especially of new patients–that meet with more surprise than these: “Do you own any firearms? Do you keep them locked and inaccessible to children?”

When I have been asked this question in the past by any of my doctors I simply reply with a stern, "sorry doc, you're out of bounds there. Next question!"

[SZonian]

Thanks for the ping Jag.

Since I use the MTF where I live, I get the ubiquitous “are you depressed/suicidal/intent on causing harm” interrogation.

I just remain polite with the A1C tech and answer, truthfully, since I’m not.

However, I refuse to answer if they ask about firearms. Can only recall one doing that.

I also make sure the family answer in the same way.

[The Sons of Liberty]

Bon Voyage. I guess I’m off to an 0bama re-indoctrination / re-education camp for an extended stay.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Didn’t Germany have many veterans after WW I? Look what they did there. It could happen here. Naaaaah.

[generally]

Here’s an excerpt from that article.

“But according to statistics from the Centers for Disease Control, homicide, suicide, and accidents are among the top three causes of death for Americans ages 0-54, and these deaths often involve firearms-over 30,000 per year. That’s seven times as many as die of cervical cancer, and nearly as many as die from pancreatic cancer annually.”

Notice the wording. “often” They don’t specify the percentage. They throw in “accidents” (which are going to include car accidents, a top killer) to beef up the numbers and then try to scare people with those numbers. This is beyond disingenuous. This is flat out lying.

They could say these deaths often involve bathtubs, since some people drown in bathtubs each year. But they aren’t trying to ban bathtubs.

We need to redesign the medical system so that doctors and insurance companies do NOT maintain our medical records.

[generally]

Best comment after the article:

You are more likely to be killed by a doctor than a firearm. - FACT.

[Ron H.]

"But according to statistics from the Centers for Disease Control, homicide, suicide, and accidents are among the top three causes of death for Americans ages 0-54, and these deaths often involve firearms-over 30,000 per year. That’s seven times as many as die of cervical cancer, and nearly as many as die from pancreatic cancer annually."

Notice the wording. “often” They don’t specify the percentage. They throw in “accidents” (which are going to include car accidents, a top killer) to beef up the numbers and then try to scare people with those numbers. This is beyond disingenuous. This is flat out lying.

A little perspective. Just did a quick Google of reported automobile related deaths annually in the US "Motor Vehicle--Related Death Rates --- United States, 1999--2005" as reported by the CDC, total 311,356. Perhaps we need to better regulate who can drive a motor vehicle, possibly have doctors ask their patients and their 5 year old's if they or anyone in their family drives a (much more deadly) motorized vehicle and take away their privilege of driving on the nations hiways and biways?! But possibly that's not the (nefarious) goal here!   </ >

[KeyLargo]

Help returning veterans find place in the workforce

Experts weigh in on stereotypes, strengths of service members returning from overseas
July 02, 2012|Ask Rex Huppke: I Just Work Here

Harry Croft is a Texas-based psychiatrist, an expert inpost-traumatic stress disorder(PTSD) and a veteran. He also is co-author the book “I Always Sit With My Back to the Wall: Managing Traumatic Stress and Combat PTSD” and has worked with more than 7,000 veterans over 14 years.

Croft said about 20 percent of the soldiers returning from Afghanistan and Iraq will suffer some degree of PTSD, which can range from mild to debilitating. So it’s critical for both sides to fully understand the disorder.

“I started giving lectures on what PTSD is, and I started getting questions from people, people at the managerial level, who would say, ‘We want to hire these veterans, but we can’t ask if they have PTSD,’” Croft said. “Some of the questions were just staggering. HR people said things like, ‘We’re worried that violence could erupt in the workplace or whether other employees could catch PTSD.’”

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-07-02/features/ct-biz-0702-work-advice-huppke-20120702_1_ptsd-veterans-iraq-and-afghanistan

[KeyLargo]

As Attitudes Shift on P.T.S.D, Media Slow to Remove Stigma

By Mike Haynie

Jul 3, 2012

In recent years, the Department of Defense has made unprecedented progress toward eliminating the stigma associated with post-traumatic stress disorder and other mental health issues affecting service members. This cultural shift within the military is a sea change, as more and more of our service members are seeking and receiving the support they need and deserve from a grateful nation. In the face of that progress, it’s unfortunate that some in the media continue to perpetuate a stigma linking military service to mental illness and violence.

This is seen in news articles throughout the country, with some referring to veterans as “ticking time bombs.” By describing vets as “time bombs” who are highly trained in “guerrilla warfare,” media outlets prove far too careless with regard to providing societal context for isolated acts of violence committed by people who sometimes happen to be veterans.

Reporting has been biased toward paper-selling sensationalism that perpetuates the stigma of a dangerous combat veteran akin to Rambo, invading our neighborhoods and homes. Consider the media coverage of the case of Itzcoatl Ocampo, who has been charged with the murders of several homeless men in California. Some news outlets went as far as to identify him as a former Marine before even mentioning his name. Others were sure to immediately identify him as an Iraq war veteran, and then described how the victims were tracked in a meticulous manner, blatantly attempting to portray Mr. Ocampo as if he believed he was still on mission. Mr. Ocampo has even been called an “Iraq war veteran” and a “monster” in the same paragraph, connecting the two.

If the charges against Mr. Ocampo are proved true, it’s very likely he is a monster and a terrible threat – no different from a serial killer who is not a veteran. However, the unfortunate reality is that the message that far too many Americans take away from stories crafted in this way is a stigma that paints all veterans with the same brush, and the color of the paint is disturbing and dangerous.

Most unfortunate, and misleading, are the links these reporters imply between military service, mental health and an increased propensity for extreme violence. In 2008, The New York Times published a series of articles focused on “veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who have committed killings, or been charged with them, after coming home.” The Times found “121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing, or were charged with one, after their return from war.” At the time those articles were published, the population of post-9/11 veterans was about 750,000, an offender rate of 16 homicides per 100,000 veterans.

Data from the Department of Justice indicates that the homicide offender rate in the civilian population during that same period varied between 25 and 28 homicides per 100,000 young American males – implying that veterans might actually be less likely than their non-veteran, age-group peers to commit a violent homicide.

Also not supported by facts is the link often implied by the media between combat stress and crime in general. A recent study published in the British Medical Journal indicates that veterans with combat trauma are no more likely than other people to end up in prison. Further, data from state and federal prisons highlights that the number of incarcerated veterans has at worst remained unchanged, and in many states declined, throughout the past decade of war.

For better or worse, the media will play a large and important role in shaping the cultural narrative that defines this generation of veterans. Unfortunately, that narrative has been a story of extremes to date. At one extreme, it’s the story of the veteran as the superhero – unstoppable and iconic. At the other extreme, it’s a narrative that frames the veteran as “broken,” whose life course will be defined by post-traumatic stress, domestic violence, suicide, unemployment and homelessness. The result is a caricature of the American veteran as someone who exclusively represents one of these extremes.

Read at:

http://vets.syr.edu/blog/as-attitudes-shift-on-p.t.s.d,-media-slow-to-remove-stigma.html

[KeyLargo]

Recent Vets In The News

VFW Magazine — September 2012

Media Perceptions Can Deny Job Opportunities

Why is it that Afghanistan and Iraq War veterans are having a hard time finding work? Negative stereotypes play a part.

Media reports, public opinion polls and academic analyses have all bemoaned the misperceptions and stereotypes. Yet virtually none have probed the source of the problem, or asked the most important question. And that is, where do these damaging myths originate? Who perpetuates them?

Perhaps that is because those most responsible are doing the reporting. Except for the relatively rare instances where a personal connection exists, the ordinary American forms his or her views on veterans based on newspaper/magazine/Internet stories and/or TV shows and Hollywood movies.

Both venues have dished out a steady diet of PTSD, TBI, suicide and homeless horror stories for years. Often, they are linked to violent crime and family tragedy. The unhinged vet is again becoming a staple of TV crime dramas. Under a constant barrage of downbeat statistics, how could employers ever be expected to have informed views?

Read at:

http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/display_article.php?id=1135066

[SandRat]

They did the same to returning/returned Vietnam Vets.

[KeyLargo]

See my about page.

[Ron H.]

They did the same to returning/returned Vietnam Vets.

They sure did!

[Ron H.]

Thank you for your service my brother.

[WildHighlander57]

KeyLargo, thanks for the link. I wanted to leave a blistering comment but I see a ton o folks already did.... and the comments are closed LOL.

In my browsing on the subject of Christians voicing their opinions, I ran across someone else that got visited by the local cops; in this instance it was a “friend” that called saying he was concerned for the guy that got the visit. Guy that got the visit name is Jason Ergoff from Scranton PA, and he has a religious based radio show “revelation news radio”.

This is getting creepy.....