Posted on 08/25/2012 6:34:50 AM PDT by C19fan
Mike Huckabee rallied hundreds of Southern Baptists on a conference call Friday night in support of Todd Akin, offering advice about how they can help the embattled Missouri Senate candidate stay in the race while acknowledging Akin still may have to bow out.
This could be a Mt. Carmel moment, said the former Arkansas governor, referring to the holy battle between Elijah and the prophets of Baal in the book of Kings. You know, you bring your gods. Well bring ours. Well see whose God answers the prayers and brings fire from heaven. Thats kind of where Im praying: that there will be fire from heaven, and well see it clearly, and everyone else will to.
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while acknowledging Akin still may have to bow out.
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That just is NOT going to happen.
I saw Huckabee on Cavuto yesterday. He says the GOP needs to stand by Akin and point out how radical Obama and McCaskill are on abortion. Blah Blah Blah.
Then Cavuto says, “Why hasn’t Akin made these points.”
Huck says “He is. “ And Cavuto says, “It is not getting out there.”
Huckabee says, “Well he can’t control the liberal media’s narrative. He can’t direct the news rooms”
Hello!! That’s the GOP’s point. Since when can the Republicans tell CNN CBS ABC etc to make sure they play fair and balanced with the abortion debate. The narrative is now set.
Get lost!
Huckabee: No.
And we are not winning that debate.
Why do I have that sinking feeling ?
Akin worship = Idol worship.
And anyone how disagrees with him is a pagan.
Well, Gov. Huckabee is certainly entitled to his opinion. I respectfully think he’s got this one all wrong, though. Akin should step down, IMHO. He is very unlikely to win against McCaskill, and he could potentially harm Romney/Ryan’s chances of taking Missouri. It’s the political equivalent of putting your entire paycheck in the pot in the hopes of drawing an inside straight. The risk is huge, and the likelihood of success is minimal.
If I were from Missouri I would vote for Akin in a second....he is still leaps and bounds better than McCaskill !!
The “fire from Heaven” group is precisely why we have never been able to convince the majority of voters - many of whom do have misgivings about the huge, unlimited abortion rate in this country - to be able to have a rational discussion about it that might really result in changes and save babies.
The image given is one of a self-righteous older Southern rural-state preacher, living in a world totally different from that of most Americans, who thinks he has a special relationship with God on the basis of his virtue and who is opposed to abortion not because he particularly likes people, but because it makes him “righteous.” And as soon as these people invoke their own “righteousness,” they are sacrosanct and no matter what they do, their followers won’t abandon them. They remind me of all the poor folks who were sending big bucks to disgraced radio preachers, still insisting on their virtue even when they had been found with a bevy of prostitutes or a callboy; it’s definitely the Elmer Gantry syndrome.
And it does enormous damage not only to the GOP, but to the anti-abortion cause.
Makes sense to me.
The worshippers of Baal sacrificed babies to Satan. The “secular” abortionists also want to sacrifice babies to Satan.
Anyone helping McCatskill get elected by not promoting Akin is literally in league with Satan.
Sarcasm aside, I think what the Huckabites are missing is a sense of Akin’s stupidity. People don’t dismiss Akin because he’s conservative on abortion. They dismiss Akin because he was either stupid enough, or partisan enough, to believe that the reproductive process can end in cases of rape. That either makes him a looney in general or a looney for his cause, neither of which is endearing.
Akin is the candidate, like it or not all.
The executive director of the Missouri Baptist Convention, John Yeats, told the group that he counseled Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) after he was linked to a prostitution ring in 2007.
David had been exposed for going places he shouldnt have been going. And there were calls for him to step out, but he stayed by his campaign and restored his relationship with his wife, Yeats said. As I think about Congressman Akin, his quote, transgression, was not nearly as vile as Vitters. So I think this thing is survivable. And beyond survivable, I still think he has a real shot at winning the race here in Missouri.
What Reince is saying doesnt pass the straight-face test, from a chair of a party who none of its leaders called for Sen. Vitter, who actually broke the law, to resign, who is still serving office, Wasserman Schultz told NBCs David Gregory. [Vitter] hired prostitutes and evaded the truth. Chairman Priebus was chairman when Sen. Ensign was also embroiled in unethical, unacceptable, and probably illegal conduct, and he did not call for Sen. Ensign to resign.
Sen. Ensign resigned, Priebus insisted.
But you never called for his resignation, so its a double standard, Wasserman Schultz charged. So, you only call for Democrats resignation, but not for Republicans, okay.
For her part, the Democratic chairwoman called on Weiner to resign after he admitted sending lewd pictures to several women and lying about it.
Watch this video from NBCs Meet the Press, broadcast June 12, 2011.
As I just posted in the other thread, conservatives can take back this country and win the majorities we need in the Senate and other elected offices if we simply locate and run articulate and smart conservative candidates like we have now done here in Wisconsin, ie. Scott Walker, Paul Ryan and Ron Johnson.
If we keep putting up dope candidates like Akin, we will lose because soccer moms in the suburbs won’t vote for them. Just because Akin is 100 percent conservative doesn’t mean he’s a good candidate TO WIN ELECTION. The sooner people realize this concept, the better we will all be.
And if people want to keep whining that somehow it isn’t fair that the Dems can run their own set if dopes like Biden and Sheila Jackson Lee and still win races, I have no sympathy. That’s the way the rules are. Dem dopes are able to be elected. It is what is is.
But the sooner we recognize that we must adhere to a higher standard with guys like Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan, that’s the day we start to win more of these races.
Anyone consider Akins gets elected and goes Independent? His ego certainly is bent that way.
How looney can he be if there are scientists studying exactly that premise, that stress-induced hormonal changes (cortisol in particular) may indeed induce miscarriage (aka spontaneous abortion):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18616898
One of the above scientists has also performed research with mice that tends to corroborate the premise that miscarriage can be triggered by the chemistry of stress:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-325674/Stress-really-cause-miscarriages.html
Just sayin ...
1) Akin is an idiot, and an ignorant one to boot.
2) Akin should drop out, not because of his stance, but because he has a propensity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
3) Akin is not going to drop out.
4) Akin is only behind 10 points with McCaskill still under 50% support. The race is still winnable at this point.
5) Akin needs great PR and no stumbles from here on out.
6) Akin will most likely continue to shoot himself in the foot, and lose.
7) Akin will not bring down the rest of the Party, no matter how hard the Dems try. These kind of issues have short mileage and if overplayed can have serious blowback.
8) Akin will not cause the GOP to lose the Senate.
I've watched a certain constituency here in Iowa foul the nest on a regular basis by insisting on some "evangelical" or "fundamentalist" Christian with conservative bona-fides... and who is also absolutely - and unfortunately - unelectable in the general either because they come across as John Brown lite or Deputy Dawg. More than once, I've been metaphorically excommunicated and condemned to Hell for calling attention to the problem.
Mr. niteowl77
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