Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

New Audio Surfaces of Obama Defending Infanticide in Illinois
Life News ^ | August 23, 2012 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 08/23/2012 3:20:44 PM PDT by NYer

That President Barack Obama was the only member of the Illinois legislature to not support a bill to provide medical care for newborns who survived failed late-term abortions is one of the key reasons pro-life voters will never support him.

Now, Weekly Standard reporter John McCormack has uncovered new audio of Obama, as a state legislator in Illinois in 2003, defending his position. Obama essentially argues that there is no need for the law because he trusts abortion practitioners to provide medical care for the baby they unsuccessfully tried to kill in an abortion.

The transcript of the video McCormack unearthed follows:

OBAMA: I just want to be clear because I think this was the source of the objections of the Medical Society. As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they were performing this procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that fetus, or child – however way you want to describe it – is now outside the mother’s womb and the doctor continues to think that its nonviable but there’s, lets say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just out limp and dead, they would then have to call a second physician to monitor and check off and make sure that this is not a live child that could be saved. Is that correct?

OBAMA: Let me just go to the bill, very quickly. Essentially, I think, as — as this emerged during debate and during committee, the only plausible rationale, to my mind, for this legislation would be if you had a suspicion that a doctor, the attending physician, who has made an assessment that this is a nonviable fetus and that, lets say for the purposes of the mother’s health, is being — that — that labor is being induced, that that physician (a) is going to make the wrong assessment and (b) if the physician discovered, after the labor had been induced, that, in fact, he made an error, or she made an error, and, in fact, that that physician, of his own accord or her own accord, would not try to exercise the sort of medical measures and practices that would be involved in saving that child. Now, if — if you think that there are possibilities that doctors would not do that, then maybe this bill makes sense, but I — I suspect and my impression is, is that the Medical Society suspects as well that doctors feel that they would be under that obligation, that they would already be making these determinations and that, essentially, adding a — an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion. Now, if that’s the case – and –and I know that some of us feel very strongly one way or another on that issue – that’s fine, but I think it’s important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births. Because if these children are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they’re looked after. Thank you, Mr. President.”

Yesterday, McCormack uncovered an old video from 2003, when President Barack Obama was running for the U.S. Senate from Illinois, in which he defends his position favoring late-term abortions.

As an Illinois state senator, Obama was so supportive of late-term abortions, he resisted efforts to protect unborn children born alive after failed abortion procedures.

When Obama opposed a bill to stop infanticide as a member of the Illinois legislature, he said he did so because it reportedly contained language that would have contravened the Roe v. Wade decision. However, documents uncovered during the 2008 election show Obama has misrepresented his position.

Obama, as a member of the Illinois Senate, opposed a state version of the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, a measure that would make sure babies who survive abortions are given proper medical care.

It also protected babies who were “aborted” through a purposeful premature birth and left to die afterwards.

On the federal level, pro-abortion groups withdrew their opposition to the bill after a section was added making sure it did not affect the status of legal abortions in the United States. Ultimately, the bill was approved on a unanimous voice vote with even leading pro-abortion lawmakers like Hillary Clinton and John Kerry backing it.

When Obama was running for the U.S. Senate in 2004, his opponent criticized him for supporting infanticide by voting against the Illinois version of the bill. Obama countered this charge by claiming that he had opposed the state bill because it lacked the neutrality clause found in the federal version.

As the Chicago Tribune reported on October 4, 2004, “Obama said that had he been in the U.S. Senate two years ago, he would have voted for the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, even though he voted against a state version of the proposal.”

During Obama’s 2008 run for President, he repeated those claims.

Documents obtained by the National Right to Life Committee showed Obama’s claim that he would have voted for the bill had it been Roe-neutral is a false argument.

According to the documents from the Illinois legislature, Obama, as the chairman of the Illinois state Senate Health and Human Services Committee, presided over a committee meeting concerning neutrality language that was an exact duplicate of the clause in the federal bill.

During the March 2003 committee, Obama voted in support of adding the neutrality clause, but then led his colleagues on the panel in voting down the anti-infanticide bill on a 6-4 vote.

“Barack Obama, as chairman of an Illinois state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion,” NRLC legislative director Douglas Johnson told LifeNews.com at the time.

Johnson said Obama did so “even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion.”

“Obama’s legislative actions in 2003 — denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions — were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress,” Johnson continued.

“The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose,” he concluded.


Audio: Obama argues against Born Alive legislation in IL state senate


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; abortion; election2012; infanticide; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; obama; prolife
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 next last
To: NYer

I mentioned Obama’s record regarding the Infant Born Alive legislation a few days ago in defense of the position that we all should vote for Romney.

There a multitude of reasons for wanting to get rid of Obama, but in my opinion if you are person with any kind of moral character all, Obama’s position regarding the Infant Born Alive act is the only reason you need to do whatever is necessary to remove him from office.


21 posted on 08/23/2012 4:03:28 PM PDT by PAR
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PAR

Just sent this article to my liberal parents with the following email:

“If you can vote for Obama after understanding in detail his record regarding the Infant Born Alive legislation, then God save your soul - you will surely burn in hell. Of course you could not read it and attempt to claim plausible deniability. But He will know.”


22 posted on 08/23/2012 4:14:39 PM PDT by PAR
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I’m sure this has come up before, but...

If a doctor attempts an abortion, and the child lives, isn’t the doctor guilty of attempted murder?


23 posted on 08/23/2012 4:17:08 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
"...that if that fetus, or child –

however way you want to describe it

– is now outside the mother’s womb and the doctor continues to think that its nonviable

but there’s, lets say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just out limp and dead..."

-----------------

Really, you mean to tell me that 94% of black folks, so of them strong Christian people, are going to vote for this cold-hearted freak again?

For what?

"Obama Money"?

24 posted on 08/23/2012 4:17:45 PM PDT by arkady_renko
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: arkady_renko

>Really, you mean to tell me that 94% of black folks, so of them strong Christian people, are going to vote for this cold-hearted freak again?

>For what?
>”Obama Money”?

Yes, 90+% will vote for him because of the color of his skin. Period.


25 posted on 08/23/2012 4:27:43 PM PDT by soycd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Despite this all being PUBLIC information obama carried the Catholic vote in 2008

Obama stickers on cars at Mass, pro obama priests and Catholic teachers and parents in 2008 at my parish and school .... disgusted me...

still do


26 posted on 08/23/2012 4:33:25 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: austinaero
Is there a bastard that is sicker than this one?

Yes. The one willing to blindly vote for him.
27 posted on 08/23/2012 4:43:34 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NYer

hope audio goes viral on youtube


28 posted on 08/23/2012 4:52:20 PM PDT by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: silverleaf
Obama stickers on cars at Mass, pro obama priests and Catholic teachers and parents in 2008 at my parish and school .... disgusted me...

That is why that Notre Dame Priest who invited this vile baby killer to speak at the graduation should burn in hell.

29 posted on 08/23/2012 5:03:25 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Jedidah

Deserves a repeat:

“As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they were performing this procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that fetus, or child – however way you want to describe it – is now outside the mother’s womb and the doctor continues to think that its nonviable but there’s, lets say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just out limp and dead, they would then....”

The man has ice water in his veins....true sociopath material there.


30 posted on 08/23/2012 5:05:11 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Don’t anyone try to tell me those aren’t the words of a full blown sociopath.


31 posted on 08/23/2012 5:14:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chickpundit

I shouldn’t have listened to that. I am physically ill now. Maybe depressed is a better description, but angry at the same time.

I knew what he was going to say, but to hear him say it was chilling.

I imagine this is what listening to Joseph Mengela describe his experiments would sound like.


32 posted on 08/23/2012 5:14:27 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: PAR

I am so sorry that you have liberal parents. God is your faithful Father. I will pray that your message of “real” love gets through to them. Remember that the Word of God never returns void. God can soften the hardest heart


33 posted on 08/23/2012 5:14:46 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

Wow, can you imagine him with our health care? As we age and are no longer “useful” to society?

:shudders:


34 posted on 08/23/2012 5:16:10 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

This phrase:

” they’re not just out limp and dead,”

is one of the most chilling and abhorrent things I’ve ever heard a human say.


35 posted on 08/23/2012 5:18:22 PM PDT by Jedidah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: PAR

will your parents actually take the time out to read and listen to this or wll like you said just shrug their shoulders and ignore it like so many other bozo the clown voters?


36 posted on 08/23/2012 5:20:27 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

The man has ice water in his veins....true sociopath material there.
****************************************
It’s OK ,, they’re just Amrican babies ... now if this were in Indonesia it would be a different story..


37 posted on 08/23/2012 5:20:52 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Not to knock anybody about it but this audio isn’t exactly new. The Youtube vid was posted on Oct. 30, 2008. With less than 9,000 views it is America’s shame that it has been ignored.


38 posted on 08/23/2012 5:21:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: concerned about politics

> Oboma supports infants being killed AFTER they’re born.

Billboards needed on every Interstate.


39 posted on 08/23/2012 5:24:48 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Jedidah

That’s the one that jumped out at me too. So uninvolved and unmoved by any real life suffering that might be going on and in fact he seems to not even register that he is talking about a human being.
Chilling.


40 posted on 08/23/2012 5:36:43 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson