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Richard L. Hasen, a professor of law and political science at the University of California, Irvine, is the author of “The Voting Wars: From Florida 2000 to the Next Election Meltdown.
1 posted on 08/22/2012 10:06:42 PM PDT by Loud Mime
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To: Loud Mime

Need an ID to buy beer, cigarettes, get on a plane.

Minimum of what a valid voter should be able to produce.


2 posted on 08/22/2012 10:09:36 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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Importantly, Republicans tied their claims of voter fraud to ostensible fraud prevention measures which would be most likely to depress Democratic turnout, but they ignored measures which would actually combat real problems of fraud. So Republicans pushed hard for voter identification laws, which would prevent one person from impersonating another at the polls.

But the tell that Republicans were not serious about fraud prevention was their failure to call for laws limiting absentee balloting to those with a valid excuse for not voting at the polling place. A recent News21 survey of prosecutions in all 50 states shows that vote buying through absentee ballots is a real—though relatively small— problem. That survey found that impersonation fraud is almost non-existent—10 allegations across the country in the last decade. It’s no wonder, as impersonation fraud is an exceedingly dumb way to seal an election.

No supporting data.

3 posted on 08/22/2012 10:10:18 PM PDT by Loud Mime (I'll speak for God only after I do a few lines of coke and half a bottle of bourbon.)
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What a pile of obama...


4 posted on 08/22/2012 10:10:27 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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Felons decide election:

http://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2012/08/13/when_1099_felons_vote_in_a_race_won_by_312_ballots/page/full/

Argument over. Try a new topic.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 10:13:57 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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They love to set up straw men in these false narratives of theirs and then knock them down. Republican don’t usually claim there is any epidemic of vote fraud, because they don’t need to. Most people understand that common sense measures to prevent fraud should be taken, whether or not there is any epidemic or pressing need for them. It’s the Dems who throw out “there’s no vote fraud” as some excuse for why we shouldn’t take the simplest measures to prevent vote fraud.

If anything, Republicans only go and cite examples of actual vote fraud in order to give the lie to the Democrat excuses for inaction.


7 posted on 08/22/2012 10:15:28 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Use false and exaggerated claims. Don’t correct the record when proven wrong. Use a bait-and-switch on fraud allegations to justify laws which don’t prevent fraud. Make people believe voter fraud is an epidemic when it’s not. And call those who point out the truth “vote fraud deniers.”

Just the democrat way, why get your pants in a wad?


8 posted on 08/22/2012 10:15:28 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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personally i like to know just how strict is voting via mail. I think most of the fraud is committed via mail not at the booth


10 posted on 08/22/2012 10:18:09 PM PDT by 4rcane
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OF COURSE there are very few examples of voter fraud.

BECAUSE NOBODY CHECKS FOR IT. . .

Duh. . .you can’t find what you’re not looking for. . .


11 posted on 08/22/2012 10:19:44 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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DEM don’t like regulations on elections, but regulating what we eat, buy etc is fine


12 posted on 08/22/2012 10:21:18 PM PDT by 4rcane
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DEM don’t like regulations on elections, but regulating what we eat, buy etc is fine


13 posted on 08/22/2012 10:21:27 PM PDT by 4rcane
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They say this but there have been many high profile voter fraud cases the last couple of decades.

A Conservative needs to research these and put them all in one place and get them out there.


15 posted on 08/22/2012 10:24:11 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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Only US citizens are allowed to vote in US elections, what part of this do people not understand? One vote per eligible citizen, that's how it works, that's the law. If you can't verify that you're an American citizen, then voting in an American election shouldn't be on your list of priorities. The only ones taking exception to that are the perpetrators of election fraud, either for financial gain, or influence peddling.
19 posted on 08/22/2012 10:30:02 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Another stinkin' liberal making excuses, and acussing Republicans of what the Democrats do all the time.

Remember this?

This is about STEALING ELECTIONS and the democrats are experts at it. In California, it's automatic to register a new driver's license holder to vote.
21 posted on 08/22/2012 10:35:31 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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My response to the Professor.

Voting is a Civil Right just like owning a gun. We have to submit ID, fill out a 4473 and have an instant background check to purchase a firearm. Why don’t we use the same standard for voting? If you can justify it for buying a gun, it’s perfectly okay to use for voting. If you don’t like it, then you need to lobby to get rid of the background check for owning a gun.


23 posted on 08/22/2012 10:38:53 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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24 posted on 08/22/2012 10:42:40 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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But in a very close presidential election, as we are likely to see in November, new voter id rules, voter purges in places like Colorado and Florida, cutbacks in early voting in Ohio, and other technical changes have the potential to suppress Democratic turnout enough to swing the election from Obama to Romney.

Close election?  We'll see about that.

New voter ID rules
Voter roll purges
Cutbacks in early voting
Other (ahem) technical changes

How in the Sam Hell are these changes going to suppress valid Democrat citizen votes?

I do however find it hilarious that it will definitely suppress some of the votes the Democrats have been getting.

Nice of them to admit it.










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29 posted on 08/22/2012 11:11:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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Rick Hasen is a liar and a fraud in this article he has written. I was illegally denied the right to vote by the Democrat Party in California. They used my resiential address to obtain fraudulent California driver's licenses, which the California Department of Motor Vehicles mailed to them at my home address. When I attempted to report this crime, the law enforcement agencies threatened to arrest me for attempting to report the crime.

When the time came to vote in the general election, I presented my very real and legitimate voter's registration card and California Driver's License as identification to receive my voting ballot. Before I could say one word in response the poll workers said I could not vote and instantly ordered me to leave the polling place, or they would call the police to have me arrested. I was not given even one moment to open my mouth to ask why. They clearly did not want to give me an opportunity to say one word or ask any questions whatsoever, before threatening me with arrest. While leaving the polling place, I stopped to read the public posting of the voters list for this voting precinct, where I had voted for years with no problems. My address appeared on the list, but my name had been removed and replaced with the Hispanic names of the people who had their fraudulent California driver's licenses sent to my home address.

When I tried to report this vote fraud, disenfranchisement, and felonies, the California Attorney General’s Office, Los Angeles District Attorney's Office, and California Highway Patrol refused to accept the report of the crime and threatened to have me arrested for the Federal crime of opening another person's U.S. mail. They didn't pause long enough to hear me say I didn't open any of their mail. The names and driver's licenses were visible through the window of the envelope, which used the driver's license itself to provide the mailing address through the window.

Democrat vote fraud is rampant and pervasive, and is committed with virtual impunity by Democrat officers turning a blind eye to its existence and fostering its continuation. Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s investigation of the birth certificate fraud institutionalized by the state government of Hawaii for an entire century is just the tip of the iceberg which is representative of the scope of this problem. Dr. Sun Yat-sen obtained a fraudulent Hawaiian birth certificate from the Territory of Hawaii. Japanese parents have been obtaining fraudulent Hawaiian birth certificates for decades in the very lucrative trade for such documents used to obtain fraudulent U.S. citizenship rights.

Democrat criminal vote fraud has been around since the beginnings of the political party and its criminal activities from Tammany Hall to the current incidents. The Border Ruffians of the Democrat Party engaged in terrorism, murder, assassination, and monumental vote fraud in Kansas before the American Civil War. At one point, they sent more fraudulent voters out from Missouri to Kansas than there were people in resident in Kansas. This blatant violation of law went unrecognized by a Congress controlled by the Democrats, until after the Confederate States attempted to secede from the Union.

The American Civil War occurred when the secessionists resorted to massive vote fraud, intimidation, and murder of election officials after the first secession conventions failed to win voter approval. The Democrats illegally refused to allow Abraham Lincoln's name to appear as a candidate for the Office of the President on voting ballots in many Southern states. When that vote fraud failed to keep the voters in the remaining states from electing Abraham Lincoln as the President Elect anyway, the Democrats then set out to murder Abraham Lincoln before he could be inaugurated as the new President. These plots failed too. In the end, the Democrats used vote fraud to tear the United States apart in the bloodiest war the nation has ever fought and suffered.

In Texas, the Democrats used vote fraud to depose the lawfully elected Governor Sam Houston from the Governor's Office of the State of Texas.

In the face of these impossible to ignore historical precedents, Hasen’s attempts to reeducate the American public to disregard those historical facts gives him the appearance reminiscent of the Soviet commissar responsible for the political indoctrination of the public with disinformation.

31 posted on 08/22/2012 11:15:18 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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Yes, despite the hundreds and hundreds of people convicted of voter frauds in the last decade, (almost every one a DEMOCRAT) it’s OBVIOUSLY fake...

Doncha just love these morons?


33 posted on 08/22/2012 11:22:52 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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Here's a good essay that blows this liberal "talking points" screed out of the water...

The Liberal Fear of Voter Identification
34 posted on 08/22/2012 11:24:39 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud
http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/

4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008 presidential race http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/02/4-indiana-dems-charged-with-election-fraud-in-2008/#ixzz24LnIVlv2

Fraud Map
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

The Democrats’ Election Forgery Racket
http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2012/04/04/the_democrats_election_forgery_racket/page/full/

ACORN operative admits ‘voter fraud’
http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/344577/

Voter Fraud: Coming to a Booth Near You?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/voter_fraud_coming_to_a_booth_near_you.html#ixzz24Ln1DA2p


36 posted on 08/23/2012 12:07:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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