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Which Babies Should Get the Death Sentence?
Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2012 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 08/22/2012 3:36:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: muawiyah

How does DNA prove whether or not sex was consentual? Given that a woman is pregnant there is a strong presumption that hetrosexual sex occurred. DNA is useful for identifying the father, but more or less worthless for determining consent. My guess, something like 9 out of 10 false rape accusations identify the actual father.


21 posted on 08/22/2012 6:42:05 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Abortion protects the rapist, especially for statuatory rape, by “disposing” of the DNA evidence


22 posted on 08/22/2012 7:03:41 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

That’s where waterboarding comes in to play!


23 posted on 08/22/2012 7:18:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: eccentric

There are many whose heart aches at the destruction of any innocent baby, in any situation. Those voters may understand, and forgive Akin’s “misspoken comments.”


24 posted on 08/22/2012 7:45:15 AM PDT by alamogal
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To: Gene Eric
Figured you might appreciate this introspective article — something beyond the hysteria.
Oh thank you for the ping. Great wise-guy article. That little Romney is such a trickster! The rape victim mother who passes on abortion is saved enormous additional grief, of course, as she then receives, not a dead baby and a bill, but a beautiful child instead. Thanks again!
25 posted on 08/22/2012 7:51:48 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Cricket24
Romney and Ryan are PRO-CHOICE and should say that...tell the truth.
You're definitely right! But will they? Just heard on FOX News (Akin was on) that Ryan called him "again," asking him straight out to step down, so Mitt's got his hold on Ryan pretty tight now. It's a shame. Ryan was a 100% pro-life Catholic. I wonder when his "On the Issues" page is going to change. That's a black mark that could cost him his soul. Of course, there's always repentance.
26 posted on 08/22/2012 8:35:27 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Kaslin

“Which babies should get the death sentence?”

The ones who present an imminent threat to the financial and social well-being of Progressive macho-men.

IMHO


27 posted on 08/22/2012 9:19:01 AM PDT by ripley
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To: mlizzy
Catholics credit repentence with entirely too much. A more dour and Protestant view is that there are some lines you cross that you don't come back from ~ and the Calvinists say crossing those lines proves you were doomed from the start!

It's always best to NOT TEST the Almighty!

28 posted on 08/22/2012 9:44:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: missnry

McCaskill is basically a thrill killer who gets pleasure from the death of the innocent.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 9:50:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

Congressman Akin attended many March for Life rallies against Roe v Wade. What is so odd and “politically incorrect” when Nellie Gray, Founder of The March for Life, always stood by First Principles
“that every life, born and preborn, aged and young, must be cherished and protected. No exception! No compromise!”

Nellie Gray, Pro-Life Hero - 1924-2012
http://www.marchforlife.org/

Nellie Gray, President of the March for Life Education and Defense Fund, passed away over the weekend at the age of 88. Nellie was a native of Big Spring, Texas. She served in World War II in the Women’s Army Corps. Nellie’s education included an undergraduate business degree, a master degree in economics, and ultimately a law degree from Georgetown Law Center. Nellie worked for more than twenty years for the U.S. Government in the Departments of State and Labor. After retiring from her federal career, Nellie played a key role in founding the March for Life in 1974, the peaceful prolife demonstration against abortion held every year on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade. She soon emerged as the leader of the annual event, and as an outspoken, eloquent advocate for the most vulnerable members of our society, the preborn.

In addition to her heroic work for the March for Life, Nellie will be most remembered for her passionate stance that every life, born and preborn, aged and young, must be cherished and protected. No exception! No compromise!

Until the very last moment of her life, Nellie pressed for unity in the prolife movement. She firmly believed that not a single preborn life should be sacrificed for any reason, and urged all prolife organizations to adopt the March for Life’s signature statement, the Life Principles, as the guiding light for all participants in the noble cause to which she devoted her life.

Nellie has been a giant in the pro-life movement. As we approach the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the Board of Directors will continue to honor Nellie’s memory by doing everything possible to protect every preborn human person, and to bring to an end the scourge of abortion in the United States.

“A nation that kills its own children is nation without hope. Pope John Paul II


30 posted on 08/22/2012 9:53:22 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: Kaslin
Question...

Anyone know the actual numbers on pregnancy resulting from forcible rape?

I've seen estimates from 0.5% (1 in 200) to 5.0% (1 in 20).

Pregnancy for consensual, unprotected sex is around 1 chance in 20, or, 5.0%.

I'll guess that most rape victims are of child bearing age and have a reasonably high rate of birth control use.

Any links to serious data would be appreciated.

I also wonder if - legally - a criminal prosecutor, or a defense attorney, are allowed to inform the jury that a victim has become pregnant?

I cannot recall ever hearing this issue discussed.

In fact, I cannot recall ever hearing the subject of pregnancy discussed in a rape trial.

It seems like it could cut both ways with a jury.

Staunch pro-lifers might feel prejudice against the rape victim if she aborted the child before trial.

Or, staunch pro-choice jurors might feel prejudice against the defendant for adding a cruel insult to his already cruel injury.

31 posted on 08/22/2012 10:01:05 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: victim soul
A nation that kills its own children is nation without hope. Pope John Paul II
In addition to her heroic work for the March for Life, Nellie will be most remembered for her passionate stance that every life, born and preborn, aged and young, must be cherished and protected. No exception! No compromise!
Romney states a "pro-life" stance but allows for the child victim of rape to be killed and the mother victim to be further damaged.. That's not pro-life!

R.I.P. Nellie; enjoy the children!
32 posted on 08/22/2012 10:08:07 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: zeestephen

You might want to check with “Life After Assault League” http://www.all.org/ It was begun by a woman/daughter rape victims.


33 posted on 08/22/2012 10:26:55 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Kaslin
SO...Akin is being attacked because he said "legitimate rape", and the left takes offense to the implication that women would lie about consensual vs. non-consensual sex.

Meanwhile, everything he said is TRUE, and the only way to dodge what he said is to NITPICK one word.

34 posted on 08/22/2012 11:48:04 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: missnry
Claire McCaskill has her lips surgically attached to Obama's rear-end!

I've seen that movie too.


35 posted on 08/22/2012 11:52:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: alamogal
and forgive Akin’s “misspoken comments.”

Forgive me, because I fail to see where he 'misspoke' anything.

He was just precluding cases where it wasn't rape until 'later', because the female's womb would have been more 'receptive' during the sex.

If someone here has a better explanation for what 'legitimate rape' meant, then fire away.

36 posted on 08/22/2012 11:59:55 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: Cricket24
>> if you believe a woman can make the choice to abort a baby that is conceived from a rape, then you are PRO-CHOICE. Period. <<

So if someone is staunchly pro-life and would forbid abortion for 99.99% of pregnancies, but would allow abortion in the other 00.01%, they should describe themselves as "Pro-Choice. Period". Right.

Okay, following this logic, do YOU believe a woman should have the CHOICE to abort her child if the pregnancy will kill her?

If so, you better start describing yourself as "Pro-Choice. Period."

37 posted on 08/22/2012 3:34:24 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I should have stated “analytical” instead “introspective”.

Keep in mind this is the first article I found that was not hyperventilating for the crucifixion of Akin.

My beef with the Akin fiasco is the absolute refusal to accept his message on the value of Life. His remarks were too ambiguous to draw a definite conclusion, and most everyone decided it was best to simply crucify the guy anyway.


38 posted on 08/22/2012 6:44:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric
My beef with the Akin fiasco is the absolute refusal to accept his message on the value of Life

I could not agree more. I am tired of people defending retardation simply because the retard happens to hold the right opinion on life. There are a lot of folks who are not retarded and who did not win a GOP primary on the basis of Democrat votes who plan on voting against that very person in November - who also hold that view. This is phony moralizing and it sickens me.

39 posted on 08/22/2012 8:13:41 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: BillyBoy

People like Cricket24 are too dense to understand the fallacy of their own logic.


40 posted on 08/22/2012 8:15:09 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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