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600 'Rabbis for Obama' give backing to US president (few Orthodox)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 8/21/12 | JTA

Posted on 08/21/2012 8:13:14 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

I will never understand the Jewish love affair with the state and state power.

The state has never been a friend of the Jews.

The United States is the only state in the history of the world where Jews haven’t been persecuted.

And the irony is that most Jews live conservative lives and are not dependent on the state for their existence.

And nowhere in the Torah does it say that Jews should outsource their religious duties-charity and compassion for others— to the government.

And on top everything else, the far left(allied with the Democratic Party) in this country equates Zionism with neo-imperialism and evil.


21 posted on 08/21/2012 9:15:07 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Nachum

The J Street crowd of self loathing, opportunistic “Rabbi’s” are little different from those collaborators appointed by the nazis to serve on the Holocaust era Judenrat.


22 posted on 08/21/2012 9:17:19 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Nachum

Waaal,whatyknow, here I thought jews were pretty smart people, but i guess they got their DUDDS like everyone else
Think they might be looking for bigger grants?


23 posted on 08/21/2012 9:20:27 PM PDT by munin
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To: doc1019

Well then YOU should pull the Rabbis voting card!


24 posted on 08/21/2012 9:21:19 PM PDT by BOOHA
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To: BOOHA

?


25 posted on 08/21/2012 9:24:42 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: Nachum
>> A broad group of almost no Orthodox Rabbis. <<

Orthodox are around 10% of Jews in the U.S. They don't represent the "Jewish vote" in America anymore than Maryland represents the "southern vote". Obama may win big in Maryland but he'll get crushed in the south as a whole. Orthodox Rabbis may dislike Obama but Jewish voters in general will still blindly support him.

26 posted on 08/21/2012 9:25:10 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

‘Orthodox are around 10% of Jews in the U.S’

Might even be less than 10%


27 posted on 08/21/2012 9:33:13 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: BillyBoy

Just for fun, I looked this up-

“How Strong is Orthodox Judaism — Really?
The Demographics of Jewish Religious Identification”

http://jcpa.org/dje/articles2/demographics.htm

This fellow puts the number of ‘orthodox Jews in the U.S. at approx. 600,000. And worldwide at about 2.2 mil.

Side note: the birthrate of the Orthodox is more than double the non-orthodox.

And- most are affiliated with some synagogue. Affiliated Jews in the U.S. are put at about 4.5 million, which still only puts the orthodox at less than 12%.

Still, 600,000 Orthodox Jews in the U.S. is nothing to sneeze at, -and the Obamatrons have made a deliberate effort to ignore them.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 9:43:23 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Phinneous

Dathan’s people.


29 posted on 08/21/2012 9:58:25 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Nachum

NOT a Rabbi, but a “rabbi”. A true Rabbi does not put Marx above Moses, and Obama above halacha.


30 posted on 08/21/2012 9:58:55 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Nachum

I remember in 2008 The Schlepp...young people being urged to visit old relatives and talk them into voting for the “unknown one”.

Pamela Gellar of Atlas Shrugs tried to get a reverse Schlepp going—to convince Jewish seniors that Bath-House Barry wasn’t worth spit.

I hope something like this is in the works again.
Those of the Jewish faith seem to go for the “underdog”—well, the underdog THIS time is the poor American slob paying his bills, raising a family and paying taxes that buy all the lobster that goes down America-hating Manchelle’s throat. (God only knows what goes down Bath-House Barry’s throat.)


31 posted on 08/21/2012 10:11:40 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Nachum

Are rabbits allowed to vote now?


32 posted on 08/21/2012 10:55:32 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Nachum
>> 600,000 Orthodox Jews in the U.S. is nothing to sneeze at, - and the Obamatrons have made a deliberate effort to ignore them. <<

It has to do with the way their numbers are distributed. If they were all concentrated together in a swing state like Ohio, Obama would really be shooting himself in the foot by ignoring them. However, they appear to be in places like Brooklyn where their presence in the voting pool isn't likely to affect the outcome and the electoral totals.

More problematic for the Dems than the "Orthodox Rabbi" minority within Judaism that leans conservative, is the Cuban-American vote within the Hispanic community that leans conservative. They have a lot of clout in Florida, whereas I think Orthodox Jews don't even have a lot of clout in Jewish communities as a whole, let alone the general public. Their numbers are growing, but so are the numbers of secular, non-practicing Jews, and I bet they're overwhelmingly Democrat.

The electoral college has an interesting impact on how votes are distributed. It's why both Henry Wallace and Strom Thurmond received about 2% of the popular vote nationwide in 1948, but Thurmond won 39 electoral votes and Wallace won 0. Thurmond's votes came almost exclusively from the deep south, while Wallace's were scattered nationwide and did best in liberal areas that were "safe Democrat" anyway.

33 posted on 08/21/2012 11:27:10 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Nachum

Mullahs for Obama!


34 posted on 08/21/2012 11:29:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“Is that Obamulke in Post 5 for real?”

Yes but the person who is wearing it is a fake.


36 posted on 08/21/2012 11:33:26 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Nachum

It appears he has done some outreach to Orthodox Jews, but thankfully they’re not buying his B.S.:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2012/06/obama_meets_with_orthodox_rabb.html

Obama’s website doesn’t list the denomination of the “600 Rabbi’s”, so I’d be curious to know just how many the “handful” of Orthodox rabbi’s that endorsed him are... 3 Rabbis? 5? 7? And more importantly, how they can justify their endorsement.

The media’s perception of religious denominations is very odd. During the coverage of the Iowa caucus, they talks about the super duper important “evangelical vote” so much that you’d think the state is 99% evangelical protestants and 1% everyone else. It’s actually split evenly between Catholics and Evangelicals — about 25% evangelical, 23% Catholic, and 50% everyone else. I guess the media figures Catholics either don’t vote or aren’t important, since they never discussed the “Catholic vote” in Iowa and no candidate bothered with “outreach” to them, including the Catholic candidates.


37 posted on 08/21/2012 11:35:54 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: radpolis

“And on top everything else, the far left(allied with the Democratic Party) in this country equates Zionism with neo-imperialism and evil.”

It was once the other way around. Truman and Robert Kennedy versus H W Bush and Baker. Some Jews vote democrat because they remember the old pro-Israel New Republic Democrat and others vote Democrat because they really don’t like Israel.

There are other Jews who think that most Republicans are like Akin and want to force their kids to celebrate Christmas in public school.


38 posted on 08/21/2012 11:41:20 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: sf4dubya
Reform "Judaism" in the West, from what I've seen, is pretty much the bagels and lox kind. They don't dress or act any differently from their non-Jewish neighbors, so what's the point?

Spiritual depravity was the reason that G-d took the Jews out of Egypt. The Jews in Egypt had fallen to the 49th level (of 50 possible levels, with 50 being the lowest) of tumah--spiritual impurity and moral decadence. G-d took them out of Egypt, away from the immorality of the Egyptians just before they fell to the lowest level--the state of total spiritual suicide and an end to being Jewish. Had they lingered just the slightest more bit of time in Egypt, they would have been irredeemable.

It seems that, from what I've seen, unfortunately many Jews here have reached the 49th or even a lower level of tumah. Cavorting about in immodest clothing with accompanying lewd behavior, substituting the acquisition of material goods for attaining spiritual growth, and ignoring the Commandments has resulted in a loss of the whole concept of what constitutes a Jewish life. These unfortunate people don't even know what conducting oneself as a Jew means--and I don't mean having an appetite for bagels!

It is therefore little wonder that they fall prey to slick false promises from a snake oil salesman and that they don't even care if he wants to throw Israel under the bus. One Obamabot told me hotly, "If you care so much about Israel, why don't you move there?" The assimilated have no concept of the special holiness of Israel to the Jewish people and its exalted place in our history, so it's just a geographical name to them. They are willing to settle for vinyl because they don't even know the joy of real leather.

39 posted on 08/22/2012 12:10:52 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: No Socialist

“Maybe it’s time for Republicans to stop worrying about Israel.”

That is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.

Israel is in real danger. You’re going to let Israel, the only democracy and our only ally in the ME, be nuked off of the planet or, as they say, be driven into the sea?

You are advocating genocide.

Okie dokie...we know where you stand.

The rest of your post is too nonsensical to address.


40 posted on 08/22/2012 12:19:04 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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