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>>pop gun 9mm<<

This is absurd. If you NEED more than a 9+P, you NEED a rifle of some sort. I see statements like this and they are usually made by those who know very little about what they’re talking about. Shot placement is key, and when shot placement isn’t good enough, a traditional compact or full size handgun isn’t going to be good enough.

I love 1911’s. I borrowed a friend’s for a number of years (I cried when he wanted it back) and would often carry it in the “wild” (no, not South Dallas) on a Tac vest as a backup. I’d switch between that and a revolver. My 13 shot 9mm H&K stayed at my side all the time, with or without the “backup.”

If you WANT a .40, .45, .357mag/sig, 44 mag, whatever, get one. They’re all great guns, but a 9 is NOT a pop gun. In fact, a 9 should be the “default” choice — the one to get unless you specifically desire another caliber. Cheaper ammo and a little easier to shoot than most, so you’ll practice more and be more proficient. I would not recommend the .45 for purchase unless one has shot it a bunch or just wants to have it around.

A 9mm (or .38 special) in the head beats a .45 in the body armor every time.

The “caliber must start with a .4 crowd” make a fallacious argument, because James Butler Hickok used .36 caliber Colt Navy revolvers.

That caliber was most effective in his hands, and his death was a result of his seating choice, not caliber.

A 9mm (or .38 special) in the head beats a .45 in the body armor every time.

The “caliber must start with a .4 crowd” make a fallacious argument, because James Butler Hickok used .36 caliber Colt Navy revolvers.

That caliber was most effective in his hands, and his death was a result of his seating choice, not caliber.

Your right. I don't know anything about weapons. I only spent 20 years in the Army, part in the infantry, just standing around not doing anything. I guess qualifying with the M16, M14, 45 pistol, 9mm pistol, 4.2 mortar, 81mm mortar, 50 cal, 60 cal, LAW, 12gage shot gun, I don't know anything about weapons. Just don't know a thing. I guess that tour in Vietnam in the Central Highlands mountains was a waste of time. I should have left my bow and arrows home and called your qualified butt and asked you what to carry.