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To: Finny

re: But ABOers are ignorant of it.


Condescending and insulting. We know of Romney’s liberalism. We will fight it. There will be no fighting Obama because the Constitution does not get in his way.

I will put to you the same question as I posted a short time ago. If the Democrat ticket were Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright, would you want them to defeat Romney? I really would appreciate an honest answer.


139 posted on 08/18/2012 8:22:51 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland

Hey Doug, I can’t join in the conversation because my wife has me committed to watching a movie. I just posted to say that in my opinion, you’re doing quite well in the discussion.

Obama has gotta go....


142 posted on 08/18/2012 9:25:32 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: doug from upland
You deserve an honest answer: I would want any liberal Democrat to defeat liberal Republican Romney on a plurality BECAUSE of the parallel liklihood that that Republicans, particularly conservative Republicans, will gain seats in Congress and would have the POWER and the MORALE to oppose and dominate the Democrat liberal, whereas both power and morale would evaporate if the liberal they were opposing was the leader of their own party.

The only way to accomplish giving that conservative Congress the kind of power and morale they need and would get, is to vote third party in order to force a plurality win for the next president, and at that, it still risks a Romney win as much as it risks an Obama win, but at least it certainly counts against the percentage of mandate of either winner, and I'm willing to take that risk as I think it is the much BETTER risk than surrendering the Republican party to the wholesale liberalism of Romney.

You've posted things suggesting that "resistance is useless" with regard to Congress fighting Obama, that Obama employs ruthless thugs to threaten his opposition personally, that this country has never seen anything like him -- and that THEREFORE the only option is for Republicans to vote IN their own documented, died-in-the-wool lifelong liberal statist who HAS A SOLID RECORD of advancing all the same major liberal agendas as Obama.

In other words, you have given up on solving the REAL problem, which would be insisting that righteous folks in Congress and other areas of government actually ENFORCE the law. It seems to me your approach is on a par with folks who say it's useless to try to enforce immigration laws.

Now, I would really appreciate an honest answer to this question: If the Republican ticket was Ron Paul and John Boehner, would you want them to defeat Obama?

158 posted on 08/19/2012 9:30:29 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: doug from upland
"But ABOers are ignorant of [the extent of Romney's liberal record]." ----------- Condescending and insulting.

Perhaps you interpret and internalize it that way, but that's your responsiblity. I'm not responsible if you choose to be insulted.

Now, I would be condescending and insulting if I described as "childish" the naive fantasty of "voting against Obama," the pathetic rationale of people who despise Romney but who are voting for him anyway, and who deny that they're voting FOR him -- no indeed, they're voting "against" Obama, as if such a unicorn option existed.

Now, THAT would be condescending and insulting if I pointed out that indulging in such a fantasy is child-like.

Meanwhile, Doug, you are urging conservatives to elect a Republican president who was the original author of ObamaCare, who thinks global warming is serious enough to merit international oversight on American industry, who agrees in principle that adoption agencies, the military, and the Boy Scouts should have to accommodate homosexuals, who appointed, in a three-to-four ratio, activist Democrat liberal judges, and who willfully created on-demand tax-funded abortion.

Excuse me if I think anyone who asks me to vote FOR that, for a guy with a solid, documented RECORD of advancing all the things I've been voting Republican all my life to oppose, is just a tad INSULTING himself, not to mention desperately deluded and frightened.

159 posted on 08/19/2012 9:47:20 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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