Posted on 08/18/2012 5:29:01 AM PDT by Zakeet
Joe Paterno had to be prodded by his family to read the grand jury report regarding Jerry Sandusky and did not understand some of its graphic terminology, according to a new book.
The book, Paterno by Joe Posnanski, was purchased Friday by the Associated Press in advance of its release next week.
In the book, Posnanski describes a scene at Paterno's home, two days after Sandusky had been charged with child sex abuse last November. Paterno's family and a close adviser were trying to explain to the Penn State coach that there was a growing sentiment Paterno must have known for years about the accusations against Sandusky.
The book quotes Paterno as shouting "I'm not omniscient!"
The book also indicates Paterno didn't comprehend all the terms in the report, asking his son what sodomy meant.
According to the book, later that night Paterno's son, Scott, told his mother that she should brace herself for the possibility that Joe could be fired.
Sue Paterno responded, "Scotty, that will kill him."
Paterno was fired by school trustees two days later, on Nov. 9. He died in January at age 85 of cancer.
Sandusky, Paterno's longtime defensive coordinator, is jailed and awaiting sentencing after being convicted in June on 45 criminal counts involving 10 boys.
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Nonsense.
I have, in fact, posted for years that JPII should have faced consequences.
Absolutely, if the is declared a saint he will be the patron saint of pedophile apologists.
Groups of people who had been raped by priests as children went to him and asked for him to clean things up. It was the same as when Russians went to Stalin to tell uncle Joe about the awful things going on in Siberia...NADA.
At least the current pope is quite a bit better, though not as good as one might want.
James Dickey, who was older, and had a more rural upbringing than Paterno, was well aware of the concept in A.D. 1970 when he published Deliverance.
Was that before biblical times?
No. I would say in most of rural America prior to A.D. 1970.
Oh give me a break! Just because it wasn't discussed around the dinner table or polite company doesn't mean good people did not know what sodomy was or discuss it at all. Rural America is for the most part well educated and well versed in scripture.
But even considering the taboo nature of such discussions among family and friends, the case here is that Paterno's assertion of ignorance regarding sodomy is beyond the realm of believable. He had a very good academic education, religious formation, and was immersed in the world outside of the ivory towers. To think he was so naive is to accept that Obama never heard Rev. Wright's racist sermons.
He did know what was going on and chose to notify the administration, NOT the police, and chose to continue a working relationship with a child rapist.
If he did not believe the allegations, he should have taken action against the assistant coach who defamed someone Paterno thought was a good man.
So much for that Ivy League education (at Brown). JoePa apparently never went to Mass either.
Why fire him? Oh, maybe for raping a child. Which is the same reason Paterno "encouraged" him to retire. Firing is not out of the question for a senior collage official, after all, Paterno was fired and he didn't rape anyone.
As I said in another post, either the assistant coach's allegation was false or they were true. If they were false, then the assistant should have been fired, but instead they encouraged Sandusky to retire.
My sister had to explain to my, at the time 88 y/o mother, what sodomy was and how men had sex with one another. So yes it it possible.
Different era.
Ned Beatty confirms your statement for the record, the hard way.
“Paterno was overruled”. Haha. Haahhhaaaaahahahahah. Yeah. Right. Paterno ran Penn State. If Paterno wanted a giant gong installed in the middle of campus and gonged on the hour, every hour, it would have been done.
And why would they let Sandusky on... but not with kids? That certainly isn’t making your case any stronger.
Not true. Freeh even said that his retirement had nothing to do with the 1998 DPW investigation into his activities that the DPW mysteriously dropped for no apparent reason. Now if he had been indicted and convicted back then, then firing or forced retirement would have been a strong probability -- but Jerry Lauro and the DPW just dropped their investigation.
As I said in another post, either the assistant coach's allegation was false or they were true.
The way our system of justice works they have to be adjudicated false or true. And you do realize that the jury in the Sandusky trial found the allegation of child abuse for the 2001 incident irreverently wrapped around Paterno's neck to have been false. Sandusky was acquitted of it.
No, everyone living that long had knowledge of pedophilia existing. He also knew Sandusky’s preliection. However, the term “sodomy” used legally is unclear. He could,have been asking whether in this case it referred to oral or anal.
You make the assumption that no one told the bishop in your example. For sake of the argument, would the bishop be responsible for any subsequent abuse after being told.
No sane person would hold Paterno’s, or your hypothetical bishop, responsble for things that went on without their knowledge. But once they are told of the accusations, the buck falls at their feet.
I believe that is a fair way to look at it.
I know some bishops were told...and I would guess that Paterno’s was told and dismissed it.
Just my two cents.
Did he approve hirings or professors and their salaries and determine how a $2.5 billion dollar budget was spent. Get real. Anything that affected his football program -- yes -- but that's a far cry from running Penn State.
And why would they let Sandusky on... but not with kids?
Personal Use is okay but Liability Problems if kids are brought there -- [Exhibit 2G] Freeh Report
Paterno’s Ivy League degree was not in football...but literature.
I do believe the subject of homosexuality and sodomy would have arisen periodically during those studies.
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Every report I saw said that KIDS weren’t banned. But Sandusky wasn’t allowed to bring them on. If you can find something that contradicts that assertion I’d love to read it.
Bottom line was that Paterno knew Sandusky was a child molester based on a first hand account from one of his coaches, and, whether the administration did anything or not, he didn’t move heaven and earth to keep this creep away from his program.
It was a sad circumstance, indeed. He was an amazing Pope on so many levels, especially helping the Eastern bloc nations throw off communism. I continue to think that, at the time, his and Paterno’s, the very thought of such filth was almost just blocked out of their minds by revulsion.
Now, finally, no one can avoid this stomach-turning and pathetic reality any more. One sincerely hopes that strenuous convictions of child rapists now may in the future result in fewer men and women who believe themselves to be homosexuals. Personally, I believe that the gratuitous sexual penetration of any child under the age of 15 should result in a death sentence.
BTW, I greatly admire Benedict. (I am not a Catholic.) He was the theological brains behind JPII, and had he assumed the papacy when younger, he would have been even more influential. At least he has tried to address this painful wound.
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