Why I Will Vote for Romney-Ryan in November

http://www.freerepublic.com/~mkjessup/ | 17 August 2012 | Mark Jessup (aka mkjessup)

[Gilbo_3]

read that Dr Sowell article this morning, and my take is that he sees the 'forest' as being gone either way...

a wildfire with bambam, or clearcutting it with mittens...

in no way did i see him in that article making a case for an executive to do any more than work within the system...

something that mittens will do in spades, giving us 'bi-partisan' implementation of a large percentage of bambams goals too...

so long as politicians refuse to gut the budget with a friggin meataxe, we're hosed anyways...might as well pull the damn bandaid off and get it over with...depending on future politicians to balance and fix anything is how we got here...

[stephenjohnbanker]

I DO know how you feel.

[DoughtyOne]

I understand what you folks are saying.  That graphic on the right pretty much sums it up for me.

I can't stand by and watch the slide into oblivion any longer.  I may not be able to affect who is nominated, but I sure as hell can affect who I vote for.

If my team is going to join their team, then I don't have a team.  It's that simple.

President Reagan used to say it like this.  I was a life-long Democrat until the party moved away from me.

Well, the Republican party has moved away from me.  I'm sorry to see it, but it's life.

I have had to accept other people's decisions that affected life, in a very painful manner.  All you can do is remain who you are, suck it up, and move on.

Republican party, you know where I am when you change your ways.  Feel free to contact me, after you have.

And by the way, that smoke and mirrors thing..., it's not working for you.

FReepers and Lurkers, if you haven't already, please chip in to help end this FReep-a-Thon.  Thank you.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Nixon
Carter
Reagan*********************************************
Old Man Shrub (NWO)
Clinton
Shrub2
Obama

One decent President in 44 years....not another one in sight.

[Kevmo]

Oh you’ve decided that it’s a mutually exclusive designation?
***Sometimes it is; most of the time it isn’t. But increasingly, it is becoming more and more the case.

[DoughtyOne]

I’m not convinced we haven’t seen some good people come and go.

We hold them to a very strict set of principles, then allow a guy like Romney to slither in without us enforcing any principles.

“Oh he said that fifteen years ago? Well then, that’s the end of them!”

“Oh, he governed like that, supported the other, came out in favor of this other stuff too, and still believes 95% of it...? Well, he’s okay then. Remember, Reagan wasn’t perfect either.”

[BlackElk]

mkjessup:

The former GOP national candidates you name are all high up in the GOP. At their level, everyone must maintain the fiction that the nominee is worth voting for. I am not running for POTUS and never will. Nor am I a national Republican figure subject to being bludgeoned into line. Nor did I do a 180 reversal of my principles to become an instant pom pom girl for my enemies last Friday. Nor shall I now or in the future. Nor am I subject to an ideological virus like EVER finding either of this year's despicable major party candidates for POTUS vaguely acceptable to conservatives.

I do thoroughly disagree with the idea that Mittler is a "traitor to conservatism." Neither was Georg McGovern. Neither was never even remotely conservative. That would be like accusing Stalin of being a traitor to our Founding Fathers. How could that be???

I live about three miles south of Ryan's Congressional District. I am also not impressed by him. If you are impressed by him, good for you. That is another thing on which I won't be joining you.

Note that you mentioned, attacked (however mildly) and pinged me and not vice versa. Whatever I may do in the future, you are not likely to be part of. Whatever you may do in the future, I am not likely to be part of.

Paraphrasing Don Vito Corleone as he said said to Virgil Solluzzo: Supporting this Romney is a dirty business that I want no part of. That's your business and it does not concern me.

I would add: Personally, I wish you well and, if you succeed in electing that despicable POS to whom you have now pledged your troth, I hope you get a thorough snootful of him immediately after 1/21/13.

[Kevmo]

I do thoroughly disagree with the idea that Mittler is a “traitor to conservatism.” Neither was Georg McGovern. Neither was never even remotely conservative. That would be like accusing Stalin of being a traitor to our Founding Fathers. How could that be???
***George McGovern never claimed to be a “severe conservative”. Nor did Stalin. But Romney did. Just like Benedict Arnold claimed to be a patriot, but was lying. Traitor is the proper term.

[mkjessup]

BlackElk:

I wish you well also, and I am certain that my Godfather, James Robleone wishes you well too. I posted this vanity as you said, last Friday and I did not post it lightly. Time will indeed prove the folly or foresight of my actions. I did not expect that Mr. Robleone would actually endorse the same course of action this morning in a new thread of his own, however I am honored to stand with him and I am sure that we can agree on wishing him nothing but success and the very best.

Arrivederci.

[BlackElk]

Aren't you the one who theorizes that those here who hurl insults at others are conceding that they have lost the argument???? Just asking!

Anyone who would vote for either Obama or Romney must not care much for the lives of the next five million babies to be sliced, diced and hamburgerized.

I have lived a long time and enjoyed most of that life. Obama has nothing to intimidate me with and neither does Romney.

As to purism, Barry Goldwater (not my hero for other reasons) said of extremism in 1964: If you were hiring someone to man your cash register, would you hire someone "extremely" honest or 75% honest? Likewise, in choosing a wife, would you marry one committed to avoiding prostitution 100% of the time or one similarly committed 75% of the time (or in the case of Romney more like 1% of the time). You make your choices and live with the results.

And, of course, I have every intention to vote against Obama AND against Romney.

Again, you chose to ping me as I did hot choose to ping you.

You must really feel a sense of shame when you have to go hunting each and every FReeper who disagrees with you on Romney only three days after you did a sudden 180 and became a Romney pom pom girl.

The shade of Margaret Sanger thanks you for your support.

[BlackElk]

#410: Third to last paragraph: “hot” = not

[mkjessup]

What you consider a “ping”, I considered a response to your #407 and I felt that my response was more than cordial.

Apparently being cordial isn’t what you had in mind.

Do as you wish.

[BlackElk]

As I previously posted, Bauer should be ashamed of himself. Yes, I can blame others for supporting Mittler.

Get back to me, if he is elected, after he makes his first SCOTUS appointment.

[SZonian]

Well written mk, I can empathize with the predicament you and other FReepers find yourselves in. Your post has compelled me to write something about this whole Romney mess for the first time in a very long time.

Since the moment Romney became the apparent nominee, FR has devolved into one big pissing match between the AB0’s and ABR’s.

It’s been a sight to behold. The only analogy I can draw is the War Between the States, War of Northern Aggression or as it’s more commonly known, the Civil War.

FReepers going at each other’s throats because they disagree with each other. I have judiciously and studiously attempted to avoid entering the fray. Occasionally jumping in to try and get FReepers to cease with the personal insults and attacks. To little or no avail and sometimes, to find the long knives pointed in my direction instead.

Cowardice? No. I’m not a masochist. I am fortunate (??) that I live in CA. My choice has been made for me. I will vote Conservative or straight R depending on who is on the ballot, but won’t pull for Romney. But then again, I can’t see Romney winning CA anyway, so I can retain what little of my principles/honor remain intact after this debacle.

For those in swing states, I empathize with your predicament.

On another thread, an AB0 FReeper said that forgiveness was in order. I do believe that there are apologies due from both sides.

The only way to heal many of the deep wounds given here on FR in the past few months is for FReepers to put aside their pride, reach out their hand and apologize.

Then forgiveness and healing can commence in earnest. A return to civil discourse is sorely needed. It’s what makes FR the best place to be on the internet.

In closing, I humbly and sincerely apologize to any who I have offended here on FR.

No politician is worth the FRiendship of a FReeper, even if we do disagree.

Godspeed and may God in His eternal wisdom and mercy continue to bless these United States of America.

SZ

[sickoflibs]

Maryland is going for Obama as it did in 2008 and no amount of dreaming or wishful thinking is going to change that.
Given that I have no reason to soil myself voting for Romney, in case he wins. I guess if he loses after I vote for him then it’s just water under the bridge.

There are two referendums on the Maryland ballot that have a chance of passing : Repeal gay marriage and repeal Dream act for illegals college tuition that I will vote for.

As I always said : vote for whoever you want.

You see what is going on in MO with Akin? Another Sharon Angle looking to throw the Senate back to Reid. Imagine a POTUS Romney with a Reid Senate.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” You see what is going on in MO with Akin? Another Sharon Angle looking to throw the Senate back to Reid “

Yep. Incredible.

[stephenjohnbanker]

I decided to vote for Romney a few weeks ago, after having talked to a military pal. He was right too. “Forget Romney, he’s a weasel. He just wants to be POTUS. We can move him to the right. He will move there just to get acceptance. This election is not about Romney, it is about Obama “

[Reily]

Bingo!

You win not one cigar but a whole box!

[sickoflibs]

RE :”We can move him to the right.

You mean like we moved Boehner to the right?? OWCH :)

In 2012 and 2016 maybe (election years), the others would/will be pretty rough. He will be in a position to move Republicans to the left as POTUS.

I can just hear it : “We have to support that (Romney's current agenda) or Democrats will win. They will do even worse and this is the BEST deal we can get. We all knew he was liberal anyway and we accepted that. We cant turn on ourselves now. Maybe after re-election Romney can move to the right like Bush did his second term. Lets' all just pull together one more time as a Team.”

OWCH, this is just too easy to see this time.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” You mean like we moved Boehner to the right?? OWCH :)

Boehner is a drunk, and Obama has plenty of the best scotch.

” He will be in a position to move Republicans to the left as POTUS.”

Yeah, but I don’t think that he will.

” I can just hear it : “We have to support that (Romney’s current agenda) or Democrats will win. They will do even worse and this is the BEST deal we can get. We all knew he was liberal anyway and we accepted that. We cant turn on ourselves now. Maybe after re-election Romney can move to the right like Bush did his second term. Lets’ all just pull together one more time as a Team.”

Bush moved to the right in his 2nd term? Coulda fooled me! I didn’t even vote for the NWO/Amnesty Queen the second time, nor did I vote for McCain/Palin. I don’t have that luxury this time.