Does Paul Ryan Know What’s in His Budget?

finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange ^ | August 17, 2012 | Dean Baker

[Praxeologue]

If the news media had to work for a living, this is what they would all be asking right now. The reason is simple. The projections the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) made for Representative Ryan's budget imply that he literally wants to shut down the federal government.

[Praxeologue]

If you read this and didn't know about the author or the think tank he founded, you would probably find it reasonable, even to the point of questioning whether Paul Ryan might be going too far with his planned belt-tightening. The author even states that "This is not a vicious anti-Ryan attack coming from hyper-partisan Democrats."

Well, this is but one of countless deceptive articles that will appear between now and election day.

The author is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Dean Baker is, in my view, a socialist, co-founder of Center for Economic and Policy Research, which has a Board that looks like this and founders such as this.

None of this will be apparent to the average registered Republican, much less an independent voter. Many will be taken in.

Baker does slip, however, when he says that "education" funding is one of the things that "we associate with the federal government". Also, someone at Yahoo accidentally blew Baker's cover by trumpeting his video supporting a $10 minimum wage to "stimulate the economy".

[Drill Thrawl]

The projections the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) made for Representative Ryan's budget imply that he literally wants to shut down the federal government

The author says this like it's a bad thing.

[chris37]

Shut it down, fire them all, eliminate their pensions, and arrest anyone who ever speaks of forming a such a beast again.

[wastedyears]

Last I remember, the Constitution and Bill of Rights very specifically enumerates what the federal government is allowed to do.

1. Defend the borders
2. Collect taxes
3. Mail

[depressed in 06]

...he literally wants to shut down the federal government.

And, what is the downside?

[Praxeologue]

The author says this like it's a bad thing.

For we ten percent of electorate: we know it's a good thing. For the other forty-one points of a Republican majority, it seems like a radical and dangerous concept, even though it would be good for them too.

[ex91B10]

Paul Ryan:

-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)

on Bailouts and Government Stimulus:

-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)

on Entitlement Programs

-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)

Might as well keep the Kenyan

The Kenyan must go.

[Praxeologue]

2. Collect taxes

You would repeal the 16th amendment, so I assume you are referring to tariffs.

[Wyatt's Torch]

This idiot misses the point. The point of what Ryan gave CBO was to show that the path we are on literally means the government, and the economy, are on a path towards total disaster without drastic changes.

[Praxeologue]

Might as well keep the Kenyan

The Kenyan must go.

Are you experiencing cognitive dissonance?

I encourage you to suspend disbelief until November 8th.

[Praxeologue]

Amending your language, the author believes that:

The point of what Ryan gave CBO was to show that the path we are on literally means the government, and the economy, will not fund our union clients' favored programs unless taxes are drastically raised..

[mongo141]

“Shut it down, fire them all, eliminate their pensions, and arrest anyone who ever speaks of forming a such a beast again.”

____

An excellent and often mentioned idea.

[Praxeologue]

3. Mail

We don't need government to run mail any longer.

[WHBates]

Might as well keep the Kenyan

Hummmm....Let me think...... NO!!!!!!!!!!!

[ilgipper]

So, voting for a small addition to Medicare to fill a missing component to the coverage is the same as what Obama has done. That is nonsensical.

The Medicare Part-D actually has paved the way for the rest of the reform. For all the faults of adding more to the program, it came in under budget and at lower cost to seniors and is providing the model for the reform of Medicare away from a government run program and back to a private service.

The bottom line is Medicare is never going away, nor is Social Security. We have to reform both and make them market centered and based on individual controls. That is a best case scenario.

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

1. Defend the borders
2. Collect taxes
3. Mail

I couldn't have said it better myself...

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings; — And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

For all the liberals out there, that's all she wrote, live with it... Regards,
GtG

[US Navy Vet]

“To provide and maintain a navy” WRONG!!!! IT SAYS The Navy!

[jdsteel]

Yah, I read this drivel. He’s yapping about the CBO estimates for....wait for it...2040 and 2050. That is not a misprint. As IF the CBO got anything right ever, let alone 30 years into the future assuming the Ryan plan stays as proposed from day one. What a waste of electrons.

[WHBates]

Might as well keep the Kenyan

Hummmm....Let me think...... NO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

The Constitution gives better treatment to the Navy then it did to the Army. Be happy with what it gave you...

Regards,
GtG

PS Thank you for your service, I have fearsome respect for all veterans!