Posted on 08/17/2012 4:51:36 AM PDT by moonshot925
Pentagon denied on Thursday media reports that a Russian nuclear powered submarine cruised unnoticed for several weeks in the Gulf of Mexico near the shores of the United States.
“I don't know what that information was based on, but it was not correct,” Wendy Snyder, a spokeswoman for the Pentagon, said.
The Washington Free Beacon reported earlier that Russia’s Akula class nuclear powered submarine (Project 971) freely traveled in June and July in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico undetected by the U.S. Navy.
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They use a teardrop-shaped double hull construction. The living spaces, torpedo tubes, and most of the machinery are within the stronger inner hull. The ballast tanks and specially adapted gear are located between the inner and outer hulls. This gives it much greater reserve buoyancy.
Anechoic tiles are fitted on casings and fins to absorb the waves of active sonar.
At low speeds of 5-7 knots, the Akula is even quieter than the improved LA class.
Russkie “Bear” Bombers in the Alaska an Arctic areas and subs in the Gulf? I’ve also read (conspiracy InfoWars site) that Spetsnaz SF troops are already on US soil, coming over from Canada. I’m not in that “black helicopter crowd”, but it makes me wonder what 0bummer&TheRegimeFromHell’s up to, if anything or is it just coincidence or BS. DHS ammo stockpiles, riot gear etc etc etc. Nah... nothing to it.
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I believe it now.
The Iron Chancellor was right.
“In statecraft, never believe anything until its been officially denied.”
-Otto von Bismarck
“I’ve also read (conspiracy InfoWars site) that Spetsnaz SF troops are already on US soil, coming over from Canada.”
In a recent conversation with a friend associated with the US Army, he stated the Spetsnaz is pretty much washed up and non existent. I’m hoping he’s right.
“I’ve also read (conspiracy InfoWars site) that Spetsnaz SF troops are already on US soil, coming over from Canada.”
In a recent conversation with a friend associated with the US Army, he stated the Spetsnaz is pretty much washed up and non existent. I’m hoping he’s right.
The real questions are, was the sub detected or not, and if it was detected, was it trailed or not? These are questions we will never know the answers to for sure, because they will never, ever be admitted in public.
One way of looking at it, you want your adversary to come over and patrol - as long as you detect them and can follow them. That allows us to establish their operational patterns, from which we can infer capabilities. Even better if they don't know they were detected and tracked. Otherwise, they may come over and do something screwy, giving you the wrong impression, or they'll change tactics, etc. The upshot is, you want to collect as much information as possible while giving nothing, nothing away in return.
How does anyone know that the sub was not in the Gulf of Mexico?
Under Obama, the Pentagon has lost all credibility. If they say “no” the truth is very probably “yes”.
Lately, the Pentagon is as flexible as Barack and will bend over more so if it gets reelected.
If the “Generals” ever take their oath to the Constitution seriously....
The Pentagon denies.......they tell us what Bam tells them to tell us....... Meanwhile what’s the latest on the reports that they have a scenario involving the T-Party IN the USA?
That's the question they're counting on you to be too dumb to ask.
Most modern subs built in the last 30 years utilize a "teardrop-shaped hull," and yes, most of the major machinery, and certainly the living spaces are within the inner hull. Anechoic tiles are routinely used on submarine surfaces to absorb active sonar.
Submarine construction, quieting programs and sensors are much more sophisticated than some of the features you mention. Dampening machinery and noise goes much further than simply using a double-hull coated in sound-absorbing tile. What about flow noise? What about sound associated with the propulsion system; e.g., the propeller?
Being quiet at 5-7 knots is great, but what happens to the sound profile if the submarine has to go at speed, such as when they're trying to evade a torpedo? Also, it would be interesting to know how you might be knowledgable about their level of sound. Also, despite their superiority throughout the Cold War, the LA class has been surpassed by the Seawolf and Virginia class submarines (though I'm sure the Obama administration is doing what they can to stop the program as much as they can.) These are subs that can run quiet at speeds in excess of 20 knots.
I believe it because Obama’s responsibility would have been to sink the damn thing.
A responsibility Obama is singularly unequipped to execute.
This is the first time since we put NAUTILUS to sea that [the Russians] have had submarines at sea quieter than ours. As you know, quieting is everything in submarine warfare.
Overwhelming majority of the Gulf of Mexico is international waters. They have a right to be there, same as the right the USN has to be in the Black Sea.
The one thing I do know is that Bill Gertz is mostly an idiot and has very little credibilty; the problem is given his subject matter and the way he writes his articles, demonstrating he's an idiot that often doesn't understand what he's writing about requires reliance on classified information.
“In statecraft,never believe anything until its been officially denied.”
-Otto von Bismarck
Das goot!
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