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To: carriage_hill

“I’ve also read (conspiracy InfoWars site) that Spetsnaz SF troops are already on US soil, coming over from Canada.”

In a recent conversation with a friend associated with the US Army, he stated the Spetsnaz is pretty much washed up and non existent. I’m hoping he’s right.


7 posted on 08/17/2012 5:23:36 AM PDT by redfreedom (Just a simpleton enjoying the freedoms a fly-over/red state has to offer.)
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To: redfreedom
he stated the Spetsnaz is pretty much washed up and non existent. I’m hoping he’s right.

You may call me washed up ...maybe, but I definitely exist. LOL.

But seriously, 'Spetsnaz' simply means soldiers of or for special purpose and thus covers a whole range of abilities. For instance, SWAT working for the Russian internal police are Spetsnaz ...as are military special operations forces. Thus, to use American forces as a comparative base, 'Spetsnaz' covers everything from local PD SWAT, through to better-than-average National Guard troops, all the way to Army Rangers, to a (very small) group of real Tier One DEVGRU and CAG operatives. Thus, most Spetsnaz are not special at all and wouldn't be a match for the most average of US Army or Marines squads.

However, there is a very small group that is real Tier One (primarily the Alpha and Vympel units) that are the real deal. They have top funding, can chose whatever equipment they want, and have topnotch training ...not to mention experience fighting certain radicals in Dagestan and Chechnya.

These Spetsnaz are really good and the men are highly motivated, however these Spetsnaz are by far the minority. It is these men who gave the Mujahadeen dreams of Allah in Afghanistan, and would be sent at night during the Second Chechen war. If there were to be any Spetsnaz operating in the US it would be from either Alpha or Vympel (or a similar unknown Spetsnaz group).

On average most Spetsnaz would be, to use an American base again, best seen as an inferior version of Army Rangers. There are some who are even below this ...as mentioned above basically at SWAT level. Only the Alpha and Vympel Spetsnaz units are the 'crazy' ones, and are roughly comparable to any leading Special Forces unit in the world.

21 posted on 08/17/2012 6:23:42 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: redfreedom; carriage_hill

“I’ve also read (conspiracy InfoWars site) that Spetsnaz SF troops are already on US soil,coming over from Canada.”

I think what can be verified (I saw it on an official looking military news sight) is that 20 Russians (maybe spetsnaz) were training in Colorado to learn about our small arms.

That story grew exponentially.


23 posted on 08/17/2012 6:28:56 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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