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Politics (as usual) is the art of the possible, but with God ALL things are possible!!
Aug 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/16/2012 12:24:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I've been told that we must accept the liberal progressive abortion/homosexual pushing Republican Mitt Romney because we can do no better, that politics is the art of the possible.

Respectfully, I place my faith in God, not politics. With God ALL things are possible.

They say the man who for thirty or more years of his adult life advocated for abortion and homosexual rights and every other leftist cause that came down the pike is suddenly pro-life (and, according to Romney's recent lies, he's ALWAYS been pro-life).

Well, if Romney is serious about the fight for life, he should be forceful about it and immediately lay out his plans to overturn Roe v Wade and whatever other unconstitutional judicial rulings stand in the way of outlawing abortion. He should lay out his plans of impeaching all leftist activist judges that are usurping the constitution. He should declare war on the usurping abortionist/homosexualist/communist statist left!! He should layout his plans for expelling all the corrupt leftist usurpers from the congress.

He should announce his intentions of forever defunding Planned Parenthood and any and all other political groups (left, right or in between) now unconstitutionally drawing taxpayer funds! He should declare war on the abortion industry!! He should declare war on the unconstitutional homosexual agenda!! He should forcefully defend the constitution and our God-given unalienable rights to life and liberty to the hilt!!

He should consult with Ryan who apparently gets it that our rights come from God. He should deputize Ryan to lead the war against the corrupt abortionist/homosexualist/unionist communist bastards that have clearly been fighting a war against us for at least the past 50 years or more!! An unanswered war!! Don’t look now but the godless leftist bastards are winning because we do not have leaders who fight!!

We the people are rising up to fight it without leaders. We are the tea party and we're fed up and mad as hell about politics as usual and we aren't going to take it anymore!

We are legion and we are in your face!!

We need to impeach all the leftist/activist black robed rulers and get them the hell out of government!!

To hell with Romney's hundreds of pages of political plans to tweak the economy. Tweaking does not get it done!! The federal government has no business controlling or tweaking the economy anyway.

Declare war against the leftist usurpers and their unconstitutional statist government they’ve created. Defund and dismantle the unconstitutional federal beast and release the pent up free economy. Set our people free to produce, to pursue happiness, prosperity, freedom and the Glory of God!!

This is not politics as usual. Paraphasing leftist James Carville, this is wahr!!

This is open rebellion AGAINST politics as usual!! Rove, Romney, et al, just don’t get it.

Long live the tea party rebellion of which Rove, Romney and the GOP-e sneers!!

I sincerely doubt that Romney’s up to the leadership task.

Romney is a wimp!! Status quo and the continued slide into the godless socialist abyss is the best he can possibly muster. And the worse he can do is telegraphed in his record. He’s been a godless leftist usurping bastard himself for his entire adult life and I doubt that will change.

Don't believe me? here it is straight from the leftist abortionist bastard's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded

He should declare war against the abortionist/homosexualist left and against the growing federal behemoth and against the illegal alien invasion, but he won't. He won't do any of the above. Why? Because he wants their vote and will pander to get it.

Well, he can try for the leftist, homosexualist, illegal alien vote if he wants, but he'll never get mine. And that's for sure.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; biglabor; elections; homosexualagenda; minimumwage; prolife; romney; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; unions
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Irrelevant.

Fact, I know several small to medium-size business owners who are sitting on all their cash because of 0bama’s business killing policies.

These people tell me that if Romney wins, as soon as he takes office they’re going to start to spend those cash reserves, invest in their businesses, hire more people, etc.

I’m also told if Zero wins they won’t. In fact a few say if that happens they may close or move offshore.

I realize this is just anecdotal evidence as opposed to the purists reams of statistics of Romney’s term as Mass Guv., but I’ve known some of these guys for years and they’ve probably forgotten more about how to run a business than you or I will ever know.

Besides, Romney doesn’t eat dogs.


161 posted on 08/17/2012 7:09:35 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Yardstick; All
Wrong, Yardstick. If you don't smell Romney's stench, then it's YOUR nose that's deficient.

And frankly, I don't believe you when you claim "I support Romney now because ..." etc. Reading your posts and seeing how much confidence you place in the guy, I think you've always supported him but pretend otherwise on FR because you know you're in a despised minority.

An "America hating Marxist" --?? What the hell do you think Clinton was? How about Hillary? And if Obama was as powerful as you want to frighten people here into thinking he is, how is it we're even going to have elections? IF he's going to "destroy" America, what's preventing him from doing it before November? The truth: Obama is a weak fraud but the GOPe finds it to their advantage to exaggerate his power in order to frighten conservatives into voting for Romney.

Keep dreaming that Romney is "politically accountable to the Republicans." It is 100% wishful thinking, and YOU KNOW IT. If anything, if Romney gets a landslide, God forbid, and becomes a mandate defacto leader of the Republican Party, it will be the other way around as moderate Republicans scramble to get a piece of Romney's action. You think the same Congress too timid and weak to oppose Obama in any meaningful way, would oppose Romney? So ... this cowardly Congress is afraid of a skinny fraud but would stand up to a hardball political animal like Romney? Don't look now, Stick, but that's nuts.

You who claim to be so aware of all the power dynamics should know this. And as I say, either you DO know it perfectly well but choose to deceive FReepers for your own reasons, or else you are as willfully gullible as Charlie Brown playing football with Lucy.

162 posted on 08/17/2012 9:00:34 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Tell that to the railroader, coal miner, truck driver, electric power-plant worker, etc who's lost their livelihoods because of Zero's War On Coal.

Those jobs are still there -- they're just not active because of the envirowhacko aqgenda. And pal, take another gander at Romney's position on that agenda.

You are in a state of pure panic and hysteria. It's that simple.

163 posted on 08/17/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Dear Leader will simply bypass Congress and rule by decree as he’s been doing.

Then what's stopping him from doing it before we have elections that might throw him out?

Are you really that naive?

I think that question is for YOU.

You sanctimonious purists are going to cost some of us money.

Gee, maybe I am being a little strict demanding 100% fealty to conservative principles. So help me out, here -- please list the items in Romney's record that a conservative who's ready to stop being a "purist" can support. Not what he says he'll do, but what he's DONE. Please, as a purist who is willing to make some compromises, as I would have had the nominee been Newt, Cain, Bachmann, Perry, or Santorum -- I beseech you, please SPECIFY those aspects of Romney's political history and philosophy that a purist like me doesn't have to compromise.

Palpatine, as you know -- the "purist" charge is as phony and deceitful as Romney himself.

164 posted on 08/17/2012 9:22:40 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Yardstick
We all know without a doubt that Obama is a big government Marxist. Always has been always will be. And we all knew before the RINO whitewashing began that Romney is a big government statist. Always has been, always will be. Their records are almost identical on abortion, homosexualism, gun-grabbing, liberal judges, big government socialized health care, mandates against individuals, raising taxes and fees opposed to cutting government, gays in the military, global warming, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, etc. Only Romney made greater strides on tax payer funded abortion, homosexual marriage and socialized medicine than Obama and all the democrats and commies before him.

But Jim, Romney is registered in the Republican party!!!! If you don't vote for him, you're just being a purist! /s

165 posted on 08/17/2012 9:49:04 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Yardstick

“You think the country will be better off after second Obama term, but I’m the pollyana?

LOL — please pardon me while I laugh in your face.”

You mean it won’t? But I’ve told that it will. A politician wouldn’t lie about that would they?
/Sarcasm


166 posted on 08/17/2012 10:17:32 AM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

“Don’t you realize this is exactly the sort of comment idiots like Media Matters picks up to show how “Neanderthal” we are?”

Have you ever considered the possibility that there are a large number of Neanderthals posting here?


167 posted on 08/17/2012 10:22:44 AM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: magglepuss

So how many people have to die before you will be satisfied?


168 posted on 08/17/2012 12:49:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I think there is a miscommunication here or something. I was NEVER talking about death. I am talking about the folks on the left who will repeat every lie spewed out by the media without a second thought, and vote accordingly.

For most Americans of younger age, they have had it pretty nice growing up in the USA. Perhaps if dad doesn’t have the money to pay for darling daughter to go to college, and they had to work for that degree themselves, they might start paying real attention. (pain)

I know the people up thread deliberately took what I said out of context, so I didn’t respond.


169 posted on 08/17/2012 2:06:30 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: magglepuss

No I think they took what you said in the manner you intended. You are wishing hardship on other people.

Its disgusting


170 posted on 08/17/2012 2:26:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Yes, you caught me. I also want dirty water and dirty air. Oh, and by all means, lets throw granny over a cliff. Good grief.


171 posted on 08/17/2012 2:45:40 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: EternalVigilance
In any case, we don't need a third party. We need a second one...to defeat the existing two-legged socialist beast.

And that party is within our grasp. If we are set to the task and patient, the GOP will be ours (the Tea Party's) within another five years.

If you don't like what the GOP establishment is doing, fine. Get yourself in a position to fire them.

172 posted on 08/17/2012 6:41:03 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: magglepuss
Thanks, that’s fine, but at the end of the day realise that when your candidate doesn’t win, you have been warned.

We'll win, 'puss. Without you.

173 posted on 08/17/2012 6:42:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: magglepuss

In looking back at our posts to one another last night, I believe we totally misunderstood one another from the get go. The written word often causes confusion that the spoken word doesn’t (or does in some cases). You misunderstood my response about some inane comment McCain made and I responded in a somewhat smart alecky manner. It was down hill from there, lol. So I will apologize for the tone of my posts.

I asked what LOR was and immediately realized what you meant the minute I logged off. So we are good on that.

Your question “what would the gop have to do or say that would make you not vote for them” was posed not only to me but to others on this thread. I thought I had given an adequate answer, but perhaps not.

I am pretty active in trying to get TEA party backed candidates elected. As of right now, they run with an “R” behind their names. So until the time comes, if it ever does, that the TEA Party actually becomes a third party with adequate funding and access to ballots in all 50 states, I guess I’ll be forced to vote for the Pubs. I think a lot of people are trying to change the complexion of the R party and infuse its’ population with more conservative candidates. I am of the opinion there has been a lot of progress.

As far as Romney goes there is no doubt that he was the GOPe’s choice. However, an awful lot of people also voted for him. (As well as some dirty politics, but that is another subject for another thread.) The only answer I can think of to cure that is voter education, a tall bill to fill. In short, the GOPe didn’t do it all on their own during the primaries. I hate it...he was my next to the last choice .

I am not typically this wordy. I really wanted to do a rewind on yesterday evening and answer your question to the best of my ability. If this isn’t adequate...it’s all I got.:)


174 posted on 08/17/2012 7:57:10 PM PDT by berdie
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To: okie01

“The GOP will be ours (TEA party) within another five years”.

I believe that as well!! And if not a viable 3rd party could be formed and the R party will die a slow and peaceful death.


175 posted on 08/17/2012 8:04:03 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Finny

Dang, you are an impatient kind of Freeper. :)

Had you read the entire thread you would know that I signed off for the evening.

Since I don’t think we have crossed paths before..I am flattered...flattered I tell ya...that you would care about my politcal views. :)

Please check out my post 174.


176 posted on 08/17/2012 8:17:29 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie
No, not impatient, nor angry -- but curious. Thanks for your patient kindness in answering and even more, thank you for your civil tone. :^)

I get from your answer that the Republican party could do basically: "Anything, as long as the Tea Party hasn't split into a third party."

In 2012, the Republican party asks you to vote FOR a politician who was the original author of ObamaCare AND whose record illlustrates a complete political career of advancing the homosexual agenda, tax-funded abortion on demand, activist judges, and the global warming agenda.

If we seriously want to salvage and rescue the Republican party from leftist ruin, we MUST vote to see that such a candidate loses; if he wins, the Republican party will get WORSE -- and please spare the hysterical wailing of "If Obama wins, there won't be a next time!" Ask yourself: If Obama was that powerful, why doesn't he just "take over" now? I'll tell you why: it's because he's a scrawny fraud, but the GOP's only argument to get you to vote for Romney is pure, blind, fear of Obama.

Romney's RECORD proves he's against my and America's best interests. For the Republican party, he is destructive, demoralizing, insulting, and ruinous. Liberals guarantee bad outcomes -- voting for liberals is ALWAYS a mistake, and Romney is a liberal. He guarantees a bad outcome.

A hard and much-denied truth is that the ballot doesn't give anyone the option of voting "against." Only imagination does that. In Realville, you only get to vote FOR on any ballot, anywhere, ever. It's a hard, cold, fact of life. Though many who agree that Romney is a liberal tell themselves they are voting "against" Obama and not "for" Romney, it is only talk. In action, in reality, they are on the verge of voting FOR a full-blown freedom-killing liberal on the false pretense that they're voting "against" Obama. Wrong -- they're voting FOR liberalism, whether they mean to or not. THAT IS REALVILLE.

I'm voting FOR a plurality. It's the best way to USE my vote to weaken whichever liberal wins in 2012, Obama or Romney. I can't vote "against" either one of them -- I can only vote FOR minimizing the winner's mandate, and that's what every single third party vote does.

178 posted on 08/18/2012 9:29:17 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny

Life is filled with “bad choices” which are unavoidable. The German choice was between Hitler and the Communists. Ours is between a Communist and a Moderate.

How many times have you voted for a candidate for which you were filled with enthusiasm? Romney does not hate America unlike his opponent.

How many times do we have a chance to choose a person we believe to be supremely superior? Get real.

As I said, this is like refusing to throw water on a blazing fire because you don’t like the color of the bucket.


179 posted on 08/18/2012 12:40:46 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Do you really believe that Romney will take more steps to increase abortions than The Disaster? Particularly with a more conservative Congress than the one we have. I don’t see it.

None of Romney’s actions have been on a Federal level and would not be attempted when he is elected.

Do you truly believe Ryan would be a part of such things? I am not Catholic but believe him to be a man of utmost integrity who stands by the Church’s doctrine with regard to life.


180 posted on 08/18/2012 12:48:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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