[freedumb2003]

>>You can walk from Irving to downtown Dallas in a short time.<<

25 miles, more if you figure on the spurs but I assume Harry Hines. At 15 minutes per mile (a hustle, baby), you can get to the Arts District in 6 - 7 hours.

>>Didn’t mean to ring your bell but when ya say, “After 50+ years in So Cal, Texas now has my allegiance stew in your liberal juices”, but your crime in the big cities in Texas, when compared to big cities in CA, are through the roof.<<

No bell ringing — you are just wrong. L.A. and Irving are apx. the same. But I don’t pay Income Tax (productivity penalty).

>>And if crime relates to liberalism as you suggested, I would say it’s you who are in the liberal paradise.<<

By now, Los Angelenos just steal from each other. It is a property swap. Net Zero.

[dragnet2]

No bell ringing — you are just wrong. L.A. and Irving are apx. the same.

No, I'm right, and the above statistics on this thread clearly back it up.

You're the one that threw in Irving, not I. BTW, Irving is only about 15 miles from downtown Dallas, and just a couple minutes by car and literally borders west Dallas.

[dragnet2]

Los Angeles, CA is 27.8% less dangerous to live in than Irving, TX.In Los Angeles, CA as compared to Irving, TX you are: 245.1% more likely to get robbed, 162.2% more likely to get murdered, 46.7% more likely to get your car stolen.

Crime Totals

Crime/100k	Irving, TX	Los Angeles, CA	Los Angeles, CA
Total Crime	4010.0	2894.2	27.8%
Violent Crime	256.4	559.2	118.1%
Property Crime	3753.6	2335.0	37.8%

Crime Breakdown

Crime/100k	Irving, TX	Los Angeles, CA	Los Angeles, CA
Murder	2.9	7.6	162.2%
Rape	17.4	24.0	37.7%
Assault	153.7	243.2	58.3%
Robbery	82.4	284.4	245.1%
Burglary	791.0	453.2	42.7%
Theft	2660.1	1438.1	45.9%
Vehicle Theft	302.5	443.7	46.7%