Posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by blam
When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
August 13, 2012
By Jim Karger
When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands, is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.
And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands, which I often follow with the question, And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?
This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.
Nice fantasy. Its not happening.
If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition for the common good, it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.
The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.
And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who dont seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.
Also ignored (as if it didnt even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.
According to Public Intelligence:
for the last two years, the Presidents Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities. Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.
And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.
And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.
That is your choice
for the moment.
Would our military, as it is presently constituted with disproportionately white combat units, really turn on their own people under such a scenario?
(Hint: Grow up)
This is an open, monitored, forum, and you are preaching sedition.
Which federal agency do you work for?
Sure, those numbers make no sense whatsoever if an entity was planning to conquer them. The point is we are dealing with people with no sense. They believe in their cause and they believe that somehow their will can be made law and that law will be followed somehow. It really doesnt make any sense no matter how the numbers are run to go against certain beliefs we hold dear. It always comes out lopsided.
Preaching sedition or preaching defense against those committing sedition using our government to do it and then attacking us? Sedition is attacking the government and no one advocates doing that.
I think not.
PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.
PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States, from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author
I have a photo of the Chinese man standing in front of the tank. I pray that when mt time comes that I will either have the courage to do that.
The military will not be in our streets. And the police will walk after
a few confrontations. Those confrontations will slow each assault against citizenry
so badly that it would take law enforcement a century to clean up each house
one by one with swat. Then there are the informant neighbors to deal with.
See, I can make $hit up too.
Read the book "Total Resistance" and substitute the printing presses for social media, videographers, photoshop technicians and blogger/programmer/ap-developers.
As far as posting anything anywhere I was remembering that it's always best to appear weak, frightened and incompetent to the enemy. Work from within the system and gather intel.
Of course that's all from what I've read in books and in no way represents anything that I'm aware of or capable of participating in.
Just like everybody else here just likes to speculate? Right?
Using the built in HD camera a few people who've decided NOT to give up their guns fly this little package under (or over whichever would do the most damage) the lead vehicle of the convoy coming to take away their weapons.
Yeah and that can be done for under 500 bucks AND if you do it right you can fly the drone back to reload and hit the next target.
I think that Congress, the Senate and the SCOTUS would get in line with the Constitution pretty quick if five million people showed up in Washington holding a piece of rope in their hands.
The Founders wrote in the Constitution what the Fed gov was allowed to do. The rest of those powers belong to us, the people. We need to step up and reinforce the rulebook once again.
Cool site. Thanks!
Even when they know their actions are being broadcast live to the world on TV. Very few people I know really understand the significance of Waco
Quite a few of us have been there and done that; we didn’t just learn how those little brown bastards died, we also learned how they fought. I wonder if Mr. Karger knows that the picture of the VC getting a head shot was because he was killing the families of South Vietnamese police and military officers. Does Mr. Karger really think that I intend to fight fair.
I am 62 and couldn’t agree more. If I have to go this way I will make as many widows and orphans as I can. I will die on my feet or in my fighting hole; never on my knees, life has been good and every one has a time to rest.
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