Posted on 08/13/2012 5:02:39 AM PDT by expat1000
After Mitt Romney announced his choice for vice president, the consensus among Democrats is all they have to do to win in November is to mention one word: Medicare.
....First, those Jewish voters who are most vulnerable to Mediscare tactics were already going to vote for Obama. If you are the sort of person who truly believes the Republicans are going to throw Bubbe over the cliff, you probably were never sufficiently concerned about Obama's pressure on Israel and unwillingness to confront Iran to cross over to the GOP. The minority of American Jews who consider Israel's security to be a major influence on their votes are not going to be so easily bulldozed by the Mediscare routine. Voters who believe the president will sell out Israel are not the most receptive audience for a Democratic campaign based on the idea that Romney and Ryan will sell out the elderly.
(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...
Well done! :-)
Look, every group cares about themselves first...
Young people care about young people, old people about old people, Jews about Jews, Christians about Christians... That said, plenty of Christians care about Jews, Jews care about the young and the elderly, young people care about grandparents - all combinations of caring are true...
That whole manta about ‘only caring about’ is silly.
Our job as Republicans is to work for what’s best for the country. And that includes standing with the ONLY democracy in the Middle East - Israel. We stand with Israel because it’s the right thing to do - not NOT NOT because local Jews in this country vote with us. We’re not going to get the black vote either, but we’ll do right by the black community ... we’ll try to ‘do right’ by all Americans - regardless of how they vote.
I don't know if you caught this Sultan Knish article: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2915503/posts
Abortion as a Liberal Jewish value has been a stunning success. In New York City, where Sanger first set up shop, 74 percent of all Jewish children are members of the traditionalist Orthodox religious group. Liberal Jews are already panicking over the prospect of a future Jewish population in New York City that is staunchly conservative and religious.
A recent survey of New York City Jews also shows a nearly even split between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. 46 percent of New York Jews are planning to vote against Obama, and a majority of New York City Jews think that Romney would be better at fixing the economy than B.O. But it is only to be expected that the group for whom abortion isn't a Jewish value would come to outnumber the group for whom abortion is a Jewish value.
Thank you for that link.
In many ways, the liberal Jewish voting block mirrors “Cafeteria Catholics” and liberal Protestants. While Strict Catholics and Funadamentalist Protestants mirror Orthodox Jews in their values, voting records and world views.
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Jews DESPISED Sarah Palin. Romney/Ryan are guaranteed at least a 10% boost on the Jewish vote this time around without her, plus Obama’s horrid record on Israel. That is worth about 500,000 votes (based on 5 million Jewish voters, and they ALL vote). Moreover, the four states with the largest Jewish populations account for 127 of the 270 Electoral votes needed to secure the presidency.
Less-observant Jews who emigrated from Eastern Europe post 1945 and their children also tend to be conservative. Complex groups are complex. As for the rest, unchurched urban voters vote Democrat.
>>So, basically, older jewish voters are only in it for themselves and don’t care about the good of the country or of Israel? Sounds about right.<<
What makes you think it’s only Jewish Seniors?
The entire “Greatest Generation” that gave us a country tipped with entitlements, are that way.
I NEVER go to the store on Wednesdays. Some of the guys are sweet oldsters but the women are pushy, nasty, entitled harpies who get a kick out of abusing minimum wage workers.
Spot on!
Now that's either a foolish statement, or the Jews who actually did despise her are fools themselves. Do you think that Jews should despise her because she owns guns and hunts moose, as no less an authority on the issue as black Democrat Congressman Alcee Hastings claimed?
I'm Jewish and I liked Palin and still do. I'd be confident that just about all Jewish conservatives would agree with me. Frankly, I can't see any sane reason whatsoever why being Jewish should cause someone to dislike her, as if she were a female version of Adolf Hitler. The fact of the matter is that Palin is definitively pro-Israel and, if anything, is philo-semitic.
There's nothing antisemitic or anti-Israel about Paul Ryan, either. If there was, you can bet that the Jewish Left would be out there talking about it already.
That is worth about 500,000 votes (based on 5 million Jewish voters, and they ALL vote).
5 million Jewish voters has to be an overestimate, because there are between 5.2 and 5.8 million Jews in the country - depending on your source - and at least a million are probably under 18 or too elderly or incapacitated to vote.
Moreover, the four states with the largest Jewish populations account for 127 of the 270 Electoral votes needed to secure the presidency.
Of the four states with the largest Jewish populations, two of them, CA and NY , are so overwhelmingly 'Rat that the Jewish vote isn't going to make a difference in the presidential election outcomes there. Only in Florida, and possibly Pennsylvania and Ohio and a few smaller states, will the Jewish vote possibly be decisive in a very close statewide election.
I'm Jewish and I liked Palin and still do. I'd be confident that just about all Jewish conservatives would agree with me. Frankly, I can't see any sane reason whatsoever why being Jewish should cause someone to dislike her, as if she were a female version of Adolf Hitler. The fact of the matter is that Palin is definitively pro-Israel and, if anything, is philo-semitic.
I've been absolutely baffled by not just the disagreement, but outright hatred displayed by many Jews, especially Jewish women, towards Sarah Palin. When I'd ask about it, I never received any sort of a thought out answer. It was visceral, mostly driven by the merciless hammering of the media, as well as the so called entertainers. On more than one occasion, I got the "She's so dumb she said she can see Russia from her back yard." They didn't believe it was actually Tina Fey until I showed them on YouTube. Then, it was "funny."
I think a part of it was she was young, vivacious, intelligent, and independent. I think that many women, "city girls" especially, were put off by her love of guns, fishing, hunting, and the outdoors, as being "unlady-like."
I think another reason for most liberals' vitriol towards Sarah was her stance on abortion, her acceptance of Bristol's out of wedlock birth, and most importantly, her decision to have Trigg, a baby born with birth defects. She made the conscious decision to have that baby, showing that she REALLY stands by her pro-life values, and I think that for most liberals, it shames them. And that shame leads to their hatred.
Mark
Be honest, you're amongst friends, I vote three times, you probably vote more, so of course a Jewish population of 5.5 million or so produces 5 million voters. And that's not counting the dead.
More seriously. Perhaps the "Jewish" vote could be significant in a close race, but it's important to note that in those "big" states you mention, Florida, PA, Ohio the Jewish population are 3.4%, 2.3% and 1.3%. In a close race could that be significant, sure, but to focus on it from a political perspective kind of missed the point, the non Jewish populations are 96.6%, 97.3%, and 98.7%. Should Romney lose a close election, ant those are the states, it's not really about the Jews though we'll read that. BTW, should Nevada be in play, 2.8% there. Not sure it could be an issue anywhere else.
“Bray” is an appropriate name for you, given your posts sound like the bray of a jackass.
Indeed, a liberal jackass plant, who tries to make Freepers look like bigots.
“basically, older jewish voters are only in it for themselves and don’t care about the good of the country or of Israel? Sounds about right.”
Sounds like old Jewish folk aren’t any different from old goy, actually.
“Jews DESPISED Sarah Palin”
Funny, I took a picture with her and gave her PAC $5,000.
I had no idea I hated her.
So glad you could guide me in my perplexity.
I am too, and I have never seen such venom and animus from my relatives towards any candidate for any office that they unleashed on Palin. There are two I still will not speak to, one due to her email campaign to our extended family bashing Palin, and my nasty replies to her. Rosh Hashana dinner 2008 was a nasty affair with extreme political division. This year will be totally different. Already the relatives desperately pimping Obama in '08 are either oddly silent, or grumbling about his Israel backstabbing. This is a real opportunity for Romney if he knows how to seize it.
you made me laugh out loud
See my #32. You were among the 1/4 of Jews (like me) who backed her. I am working hard w/in the Tribe to change that this year. Thank you so much for all you have done, which is clearly a lot.
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