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To: surroundedbyblue
1. I'm not joking at all.

2. My point is a legitimate one.

3. There's nothing wrong or irrational about discussing legitimate points about the costs (financial and others) of providing medical care in difficult (likely futile) cases?

4. Please cite me one piece of documented evidence to support a claim that it is somehow "conservative" to provide medical care indefinitely to a patient under any circumstances?

28 posted on 08/13/2012 4:10:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I’d also like to point out that without more information I cannot clearly see the situation fully, however I was born nearly 3 mos early and was on breathing support for weeks. I don’t remember ;-) the specific technology, but it was very expensive in that time.

If we had the same system then that the UK has today, my bet is that I would not be living today. Hmm, maybe I better get out there and do more stuff to improve the world!


34 posted on 08/14/2012 6:07:35 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Alberta's Child; surroundedbyblue
1. I'm not joking at all.

Then that says something about sad about the state of your moral development. I hope that you can learn to approach the issue of the valuation of human life with an open mind and heart.

2. My point is a legitimate one.

The utilitarian argument rationalizing the state-sponsored murdered of a conscious 8 year old boy is never legitimate. This is despite the best efforts of this argument's most famous advocates: sociopaths like Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.

3. There's nothing wrong or irrational about discussing legitimate points about the costs (financial and others) of providing medical care in difficult (likely futile) cases?

Once one steps over the line of quantifying the material worth of an innocent child, they have committed the grave ethical error of objectifying human life. Also, the "futility" of this case was maintained only by those advocating for murder. Even someone who is totally morally bankrupt should be able to see see the potential for abuse if the organization responsible for paying for life sustaining healthcare are the exact same people deciding who lives and who dies. Before long, nearly everyone will be considered "futile".

4. Please cite me one piece of documented evidence to support a claim that it is somehow "conservative" to provide medical care indefinitely to a patient under any circumstances?

No one here is advocating that "medical care (be provided) indefinitely to a patient under any circumstances". That fallacious strawman argument aside; libertarians, communists, and anarchists are all in agreement that human life is worth little more than what it can produce. Conservatives stand alone in their ideology of treating all innocent human life as sacrosanct and worthy of basic medical care, such as keeping this child on life support so his lung can heal. See my profile page for an example of such efforts from the author of modern conservatism. I hope that you can approach these responses with the charity with which they are offered.

35 posted on 08/17/2012 6:30:47 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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