Posted on 08/12/2012 6:47:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Yeah, I saw that after I hit the Post button.
I must admit though, I’m still a bit confused. I’m not sure that his response to you actually answered your original question. In a historical context he did, but the response was still incomplete as to the future tolerance of dissent.
Then again, as one of those (Obama hating) “Romney People” (ugh), I must be a little slow on the uptake.
I don’t understand why there is such an issue. Then again... I usually come and read the side bar and look at particular stories that are of interest to me to get the opinions of some Freepers.
Must everyone agree with everything, or are people who agree with MOST welcome here as long as they don’t harass other people?
I will vote for Romney/Ryan. Won’t do a bit of good in the state I’m in. I did help get a conservative Congressman and Senator.
I respect you for setting up the site and you have been kind. I just don’t understand why there is an issue now and what EXACTLY you want people to do?
I have donated as well.
(Although...everyone hates it when a poster brings THAT up.)
IMO - this is NOT a time to be ripping each other apart. Live and let vote and let’s HOPE that we get on the upswing and don’t see four more years of Obama unchecked.
I didnt think you were a romney guy.I am also pleased with Paul Ryan.
Conservatives dont trust romney with really good reason.Do you think romney figured he needed a conservative on the ticket to have a chance of winning this rat killin?
Internet news on Sunday night gets the least traffic (per web ad market analysis). Repost Monday?
If he wants to act like a Conservative, that beats the Heck out of Obama, who wants to act like a Communist!
I think only a few on this site were “Romney People”. The way I see it is we have 2 choices Romney or obama. I honestly dont think our Country can stand 4 more years of Mr Executive Order.
Needs to be on the Front Page every one sees when they access FR. I am tired of having my Christian beliefs questioned and being accused of HATE, because I won’t support the RINO Myth. Nor do I drink the GOPe koolaide, but think for myself and examine their records. And Myth STINKS of liberalism, socialism and support of much the Bible stands against.
I have to answer to GOD first.
I agree romney did the right thing.The reason is,I think,was to have a chance at winning against the most corrupt, American way of life hating muzzy,president since commie carter.
Hell, you could even believe that Romney won’t be held to conservative principles, and still vote for him while holding the principles of FR. Voting is a compromise, and making a decision about how to act in the real world is driven by your principles, but doesn’t ensure that results match your principles.
Then you have the problem where there are reasonable disagreements on whether a particular candidate does, or does not, reflect the principles that we believe in. It would be absurd for someone to argue here that we should support a liberal pro-abortion candidate. But you might argue that we should support a “pro-life” candidate who isn’t that pure on the pro-life issue, like they might not be willing to eliminate the rape/incest exception.
Or worse, a candidate might talk the talk, and then the argument is simply whether you believe them or not. Belief is not a conservative principle. It’s a personal decision.
So if a candidate has a good platform, a conservative can choose to trust the candidate, another conservative will choose NOT to trust the candidate. That doesn’t make the first guy a liberal, since he is supporting the conservative platform. And it doesn’t make the second guy a liberal, because he’s not rejecting the conservative platform, he’s rejecting the man who he doesn’t trust to implement the platform.
That is where most of the fights at FR end up — with two conservatives arguing NOT over what the goal is, but over which candidate can be trusted to implement the goal, and can actually get elected to do so.
I will vote for Romney in the general election, because we are way past the “trust” question. I don’t vote to send messages, I vote based on the better outcome, and I believe that conservative principles will be better served with a republican president than with Obama. If Romney ends up governing as conservatively as his platform, that will be an added bonus. I wish we had a solid conservative, but that’s what the primary was for.
“The way I see it is we have 2 choices Romney or obama. I honestly dont think our Country can stand 4 more years of Mr Executive Order.”
Yeah, Romney wasn’t my first choice either. Or second. Or third. But the reality facing us is that electing Romney is THE only way to oust The Great Destroyer. Since my focus has been, and shall continue to be, ousting President Hussein, I’ll be voting for Romney.
If others chose to focus on tilting at windmills, then so be it, as there’s nothing I can do about that. I do, however, pray that some will come to their senses and help to try and save our country, at least for a tiny bit longer.
If you cannot live with the above, fine, but keep your mouth shut about it while on FR. Don’t fight against us on ANY of our deeply held beliefs!!
***I see a bunch of Romney Republicans doing exactly that, fighting against our beliefs.
Preach it, Jim. Thank you for providing a conservative site I can read, post and exchange ideas and comments.
Amen! to that.
It is the only reason I bother commenting on this site. Wouldn’t bother wasting my time on other sites.
It's not nice to talk about people behind their back.
You're not supporting Ryan. You're supporting Romney, and here is the thread in which you and your pal were running down us Constitutional Conservative "purists" (JimRob included) because we refuse to drink your ABO hemlock.
Quite frankly, it's appalling that the ABO "realists" are now attacking Constitutional Conservatives on this site, even with Jim's repeated postings (like this one) because we won't jump into bed with Romney like you and the other ABO party-first "realists" have. The sneering at those of us who are sticking with our principles has now become endemic.
Perhaps it's time for you to find a Republican site to spew your pro-Romney blather.
And yeah, I'm going to call out those people who previously swore that they would never hold their noses again and vote for RINOs, but yet have now not only embraced Romney but are also now attacking those of us who won't.
Me too...it's been open season on us Constitutional Conservatives who refuse to drink the Romney hemlock.
Hi Jim,
You have the only open and honest “no spin” conservative site anyplace. Everywhere else is an effort to airbrush all of the real Romney so that all we are shown is at variance with a true current analysis and at variance with a true historical accounting.
Romney’s recent statements do not mitigate his past liberalism. Surprisingly, they strengthen his liberal credentials. He has recently come out in favor of gay couples, gay adoption, gun control, gay scouts, gay military, romneycare, and a tweaked, big government tax code. He has refused to address free speech and free religion as part of his campaign, but those other items were necessary to be addressed.
You will hear none of that in the quasi-conservative media that is opportunistically conservative at their convenience.
Free Republic is a necessary voice. For steadfast conservatives it is the only voice. For true ABO conservatives — those who truly do see themselves as between a rock and a hard place with a blatantly liberal candidate — it is an honest voice.
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