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To: roylene
"Even Romney’s team said they worked on ObamaCare."

You're falling for Axlerod's propaganda. Here's what "Romney's Team" is saying:
A leading conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, helped design Romneycare, and its health care analyst, Bob Moffit, flew to Boston for the bill signing.
Romneycare was also supported by Regina Herzlinger, Harvard Business School professor and health policy analyst for the conservative Manhattan Institute. Herzlinger praised Romneycare for making consumers, not business or government, the primary purchasers of health care.
RomneyCare was enacted only after Mitt balanced the state budget.
We know what Romney’s goal was when he passed his health care plan. His goal was to involve the private sector of Massachusetts in insuring a small percentage of the Massachusetts’ residents [who didn't have health insurance and who were receiving free health care from the government.]

107 posted on 08/12/2012 1:06:35 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Romney’s advisor: The two laws are, in the words of Jonathan Gruber, who helped design both the Romney and Obama plans, “the same f***ing bill.”
youtube video of Gruber: said he advised on both bills.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/303580-1
Maybe just maybe Romney did not know his advisers on his government mandated insurance bill also consulted on Obama’s, I do not know.
Maybe just maybe the MSM has exaggerated Romney’s roll, I do not know.
What I do know is that ObamaCare is modeled after RomneyCare.
There is much information on RomneyCare vs ObamaCare, and Romney’s advisers saying they advised, consulted, wrote both bills.
I know a few people from MA and they are not thrilled with the healthcare bill, it is costing more with fewer services and bill are still uninsured.
However, I live in California so it does not matter who I vote, for president, for this state has already been bought by Obama.


108 posted on 08/12/2012 1:37:25 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Regina Herzlinger, Harvard Business School professor and health policy analyst for the conservative Manhattan Institute. Herzlinger praised Romneycare for making consumers, not business or government, the primary purchasers of health care.

If Ms. Herzlinger (like so many others) is not aware that there is a difference between medical insurance and medical care, perhaps she should be in another line of work. In any case, I believe the insurers (public or private) remain the purchasers of medical treatment, and for the most part employers and gov't remain the purchasers of medical insurance.

His goal was to involve the private sector of Massachusetts in insuring a small percentage of the Massachusetts’ residents [who didn't have health insurance and who were receiving free health care from the government.]

So now those who couldn't afford insurance have MassHealth (Medicaid), including many who had been eligible but hadn't signed up for it. So more people are receiving "free" health care.

And MA has a whole new bureaucracy (just what we needed -- NOT!) to supervise and make sure every one is paying for all 53 MA mandated benefits and fine them when they don't. Sure sounds conservative to me! :(

113 posted on 08/12/2012 2:22:05 PM PDT by maryz
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