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Paul Ryan’s budget plan hits federal workers
Washington Post ^ | August 11, 2012 | Joe Davidson, Federal Eye

Posted on 08/11/2012 9:11:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The spending plan proposed by Rep. Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, Mitt Romney’s pick as the Republican vice presidential candidate, has drawn strong opposition from federal employees.

Under the proposed House Republican budget, which Ryan sponsored as chairman of the Budget Committee, savings from the federal workforce would total $368 billion over 10 years. The two-year freeze on basic federal pay rates, scheduled to expire at the end of this year, would be extended through 2015 for a total of five years.

“The Path to Prosperity,” as the budget plan is named, also calls on federal workers to make an unspecified “more equitable contribution to their retirement plans,” which means higher costs to employees. Additionally, the federal workforce would be cut, through attrition over three years, by 10 percent, which equals more than 200,000 positions.

Because the Departments of Defense, Veterans Affairs, Justice and Homeland Security have so many employees, the majority of the eliminated positions would come from these agencies, all of which are related to national security.

The budget document says its plans “reflect the growing frustration of workers across the country at the privileged rules enjoyed by government employees.”

Ryan’s budget justifies the employee-related cuts, saying “it is no coincidence that private sector employment continues to grow only sluggishly while the government expands: To pay for the public sector’s growth, Washington must immediately tax the private sector or else borrow and impose taxes later to pay down the debt.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; federal; publicsectorunions; socialism; unions
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To: SandyInSeattle

“I’m a federal employee, and I’m cheering Paul Ryan’s selection.”

That’s only because you are not afraid of exposing reality. You’re also probably one of the 10% that is competent. Competent people do not fear change.


81 posted on 08/11/2012 10:20:59 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: muawiyah
The article says Ryan wants to fire the military systems analysts and weapons designers first ~ or did you catch that.

They do invaluable work for you.

I trust the Washington Post as far as I can throw you.

Company paper in a Company town.

Question is, why do you buy into their view of reality.

82 posted on 08/11/2012 10:21:51 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Oldexpat

As a federal employee, his plan is reasonable. Actually, he needs to incorportate civil service reform so bad employees can be fired more easily. First thing they should do is revoke executive order that established unions in the federal government


83 posted on 08/11/2012 10:22:57 AM PDT by scbison
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To: Rome2000

“I agree with you but highly doubt Ryan’s ability to make it happen.”

You speak the unfortunate truth. I think Ryan was the best choice, but as with any politician, reality tempers my enthusiasm, as much as it does yours.


84 posted on 08/11/2012 10:29:26 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: EGPWS
Ryan/Walker, now THAT would be a dream team!

As long as they don't need Wisconsin's electoral votes for their margin of victory, per the 12th Amendment.

85 posted on 08/11/2012 10:39:35 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: scbison
Actually, he needs to incorportate civil service reform so bad employees can be fired more easily. First thing they should do is revoke executive order that established unions in the federal government

Amen!

86 posted on 08/11/2012 10:43:54 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: tanknetter
Does anyone know the position of Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan as to whether they would approve of Social Security recipients receiving a COLA (Cost of Living increase) in their retirement checks? If Social Security recipients get one, then retired federal and postal workers will also receive a COLA.
87 posted on 08/11/2012 10:47:51 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: tanknetter
Does anyone know the position of Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan as to whether they would approve of Social Security recipients receiving a COLA (Cost of Living increase) in their retirement checks? If Social Security recipients get one, then retired federal and postal workers will also receive a COLA.
88 posted on 08/11/2012 10:48:01 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: tanknetter
Does anyone know the position of Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan as to whether they would approve of Social Security recipients receiving a COLA (Cost of Living increase) in their retirement checks? If Social Security recipients get one, then retired federal and postal workers will also receive a COLA.
89 posted on 08/11/2012 10:48:11 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: tanknetter
Does anyone know the position of Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan as to whether they would approve of Social Security recipients receiving a COLA (Cost of Living increase) in their retirement checks? If Social Security recipients get one, then retired federal and postal workers will also receive a COLA.
90 posted on 08/11/2012 10:48:23 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: muawiyah
The article says Ryan wants to fire the military systems analysts and weapons designers first ~ or did you catch that.

LOL

Or maybe even ROFLMAO.

If WaPo wants to trot out that cloud of crap as an argument, I've got a prize example of Gummint Employee expertise in action on my resume:

I was working on the B-1, setting up testing on the early model crew ejection system parachutes and got to give a GS something-or-other posing as Expert In All Things a short lecture on the limited value of compressive strain measurements in parachute harness.

What I actually said was, "Just how do you suggest we're supposed to push a damn rope so we can get that compression?", but I was having a bad day and had not yet fully transitioned from Navy E-6 to civilian Engineer.

The best the average GS can do to promote National Security (as well as just about everything else you can name) is Stand By and Keep Your Mouth Shut Tight while the grownups take care of the deal.

Otherwise, all they've historically done is F*** up everything they touch.

91 posted on 08/11/2012 10:59:18 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((163 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: muawiyah
I find it difficult to believe that you are an informed person ~ everyone who is anyone knows that if you fired all the federal employees and murdered all the federal retirees in their beds, when you woke up the next morning you'd still be running a massive deficit. You might work backwards a bit and see where the financial rupture is happening first.

You're right. Of course, to Ryan's credit he's one of the few who has actually created a detailed plan to address entitlement spending. Count that as another point in his favor.

92 posted on 08/11/2012 11:02:00 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Because the Departments of Defense, Veterans Affairs, Justice and Homeland Security have so many employees, the majority of the eliminated positions would come from these agencies, all of which are related to national security.”

Disgusting if true. In case folks have forgotten we have thousands of veterans from two wars in need of care for the foreseeable future. Hitting the VA for budget cuts is scandalous.


93 posted on 08/11/2012 11:06:52 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The single biggest problem for government at all levels (school district, city, county, federal) is the total compensation cost of their employees.

Check your local election campaign contributions, and you will find government employees, hiding behind “police/fire/teacher groups.”

And the winning candidates usually owe them big time, and then renew fat contracts, increase benefits, pensions, etc.

Budgets won’t be balanced wwithout big cuts, and Ryan is telling the truth, about this critical topic.

Maybe people will listen because of his age. He is younger than Obama, and should appeal to those not expecting free rides.


94 posted on 08/11/2012 11:14:41 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: muawiyah

>>I find it difficult to believe that you are an informed person ~ everyone who is anyone knows that if you fired all the federal employees and murdered all the federal retirees in their beds, when you woke up the next morning you’d still be running a massive deficit.<<

Therefore we should do nothing. Says the self-styled “Informed Person.”


95 posted on 08/11/2012 11:16:41 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: muawiyah
What happens to tax payers who want a greater burden of market level compensation placed on their employees is they get to pay higher taxes down the road.

They also get to shop for their own health care, which lowers costs because there would be more competition if health care was consumer-based.

Many would choose an HSA program which offers tax deferments and credits also.

96 posted on 08/11/2012 11:27:19 AM PDT by what's up
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To: muawiyah

And who would fill those machines with paper or ink or tell them to pocess? These things don’t happen automagically.


97 posted on 08/11/2012 11:38:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: muawiyah

I don’t consider teachers as government workers. Besides, I am in a right-to-work state. We don’t “do” unions.


98 posted on 08/11/2012 12:05:03 PM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: muawiyah
everyone who is anyone

Obnoxious. What an insufferable ass you are.

99 posted on 08/11/2012 12:13:36 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: hcmama

hmm ~ really difficult to refute such a profound well thought out thought. Did Mitt tell you to say that?


100 posted on 08/11/2012 12:32:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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