Posted on 08/10/2012 7:25:05 PM PDT by george76
Having had many contacts with St. Paul PD, even back in the 90’s they had slipped to a terror force. The only thing to do is begin making your doors barricaded so well that they couldn’t get in without asking. As soon as this no-knock crap goes down to polite requests again, that is when we have turned the corner.
* First - They get to sue for anything they want above and beyond the things below.
* As for the bad address raid portion, that should get the Cop fired because the Cop did the warrant or were the one that made the mistake on the warrant. If no Cop admits that they made the mistake, or a Cop isn’t clearly the person at fault, all Cops responsible MUST get fired without pension and lose their state law enforcement license permanently. Any officer refuses to testify against the other officer gets fired with the same result!
* Shooting a dog, $10,000 paid direct to the family for each animal killed and 6 months of weekly psycho-analysis for each officer that fired on or killed a family pet. Officer pays for the analysis, and a re-evaluation of the officer’s fitness for duty and in depth testing by an independent analyst. If they fail any part it is instant firing, and no pension, permanent loss of ability to hold a law license of any kind. (Only if the officer can prove they were bitten and were caused serious bodily injury could this be dismissed, there better be blood and puncture wounds, not a hump stain on their SWAT BDUs or a puppy tugging at their cuff!)
* The homeowner should immediately get 100% of all damage repaired by the police department coming out of the pay of the officers that committed the offense, the remaining amount to come out of the POLICE budget until it is all paid off to fully restore the home. All to be checked and signed off on by an independent arbiter to verify. Again 6 months of weekly therapy paid for by the police department for everyone that was at the house traumatized by the raid.
Once it HURTS for the Chief and the Officers to do this, only then will it stop. Cops have a stigma for being in therapy, and they really need it!
Cops have an attachment to that big pension, and being able to slip off to be a bad cop in another place once they screw up in a city, this stops them from being a bad cop in that state at least. And no one wants to hire a known bad cop, the liability is too large.
My last encounter with St. Paul PD changed my attitude on the Mayberry image of Police. So many are Thugs with Badges! And my father was a career LEO and Chief of a city next door, he would be disgusted with one of his officers killing a family dog. And would have tried to can the cop (administrative is hard to do, but he would have tried.)
I’m surprised the victims of these police raids haven’t gone nuts and hunted some of these “swat members” or their dogs.
There are two kinds of "wrong door raids." A typo on the warrant gives the cops the wrong address, or the cops go to a house other than that on the warrant. The article isn't clear, but it implies this was the first variety.
The suit also alleges that one of the lead officers with the task force "provided false information" in order to get a warrant to raid the Franco family's home.
But then this part implies the cops on the site DID have a warrant for the home, just that it was obtained under false pretenses.
Sherman confused.
Whatever happened to Minnesota nice!!??
“So here’s two, in two days.”
Wow, you really get off on this, huh? Is it difficult typing with one hand?
You made up facts. (Some places they call that “lying”.) When you were called on it, rather than admitting, “Yeah I made that number up out of thin air”, you belligerantly DOUBLED DOWN on it and acted like a major league a-hole.
Let’s just say that it pissed me off to the point where I’ve taken on, as a personal project, rubbing your nose in your own puke.
Don’t like it? Apologize & admit your fabrication.
“Don’t like it? Apologize & admit your fabrication.”
Piss off.
>> Piss off.
See you next time, then.
“See you next time, then.”
Cool. Give my regards to your cell mate.
And these people who blame Obama are sad. This has been going on for a generation.
They do! They're all for it! And the sheeple are too.
Name ONE example of a story like this showing up on talk radio. Or MSNBC, for that matter.
We live in a bipartisan police state. So, it's only going to get worse.
After watching Holder in action and obama's inaction, I give obama his share of the credit for where we are and where he will take us.
He has the power and opportunity to make it better or worse and he's doubling down on worse.
From my research into his background and the Chicago way, I don't see how he could do anything else.
His inner radio is tuned only to that station and he likes to sing along with every song on their play list.
You know part of what motivated the militia to maneuver against and actually fire on the King’s soldiers during Lexington and Concord as opposed to merely assembling and observing was when the Regulars began breaking into and ransacking private homes in their search for arms and supplies.
The British were normally very, very careful to seize only items that could positively be identified as militia stores, preferring to err on the side of caution, partly because they could be held personally liable for mistakes until the proclamation that the colonies were in an actual state of insurrection.
How ironic that soldiers of George III had more respect for civil liberties, in the face of enormous provocation, than our jack booted thugs do in the face of none.
Well said.
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