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To: OneWingedShark

“Law abiding armed folk should always comply with police instruction.

What if the cop orders you to undress? what if the cop orders you to rape someone? Always is a pretty strong qualifier.”

Not to be snippy.....

And yet it is the qualifier used. Ideally, law abiding armed folk don’t really have anything to fear from law enforcement (ideally). Just like a cross section of regular folk, LEO come in the “all-kinds” type. Fortunately, the probability of running into the movie version of a bad one is lower than an encounter with a guy doing a job with a ton of protocols and procedures he has to follow (fundamentally, maintain control of the situation). The ‘what if’ scenarios are just that and kind of fanciful

As to the charges, are they severe enough for the fellow to lose his permission to carry? Another reason to comply.

“Permission? You do realize that by making ‘permission’ a prerequisite [to carrying arms] you are denying that it is a right. “

Should have put permission in quotes, it was meant to be a facetious use of the word. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America does not provide permission, it guarantees an intrinsic right. In some states certain classes of misdemeanor do not remove the ability to secure and maintain a concealed weapon/handgun permit.

Compliance is the way one makes his way through the patchwork quilt of unconstitutional gun laws in America.... until they are all repealed.

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Cheers,
Stay alert,


27 posted on 08/09/2012 6:28:56 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BORE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: petro45acp
The ‘what if’ scenarios are just that and kind of fanciful

True; however not entirely unheard of. I remember one case where a few cops were pulling over women and, basically, sexually harassing them. {And another guy got a cruiser-style car, the lights, and a uniform and raped women he pulled over. -- not a cop, but certainly taking advantage of the absurd amount of deference they receive.}

Ideally, law abiding armed folk don’t really have anything to fear from law enforcement (ideally).

Yet the Chief Justice of The Supreme Court, Robert Jackson, says otherwise.
...and this officer agrees.

Compliance is the way one makes his way through the patchwork quilt of unconstitutional gun laws in America.... until they are all repealed.

I know; though I really, really am against it. (And have tried with little success to challenge things.)

Check out HOPE from the tagline.

Ok, I'll check it out.

Stay alert,

Stay alive!

28 posted on 08/09/2012 4:16:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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