Exclusive: Brigham Young’s Great-Great-Granddaughter on Mormonism and Mitt Romney

Daily Beast ^ | August 7, 2012 | Jamie Reno

[presently no screen name]

I support him, Mormonism, Ivy League, establishment RINOism and all.

Mormonism, Ivy League, LIBERALISM. Keep it honest what you support.

[Elsie]

Watch it there comrade! Your obamabot crimson red underwear is sticking out of your baggy pants a little.

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The 'secret' word was spoken; so the duck descends...

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GOOD Mormons are Temple Worthy - they pass this test EVERY year:

Temple Recommend Questions

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1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

Temple Recommend Questions

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1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

[Elsie]

Free Republic isn’t exactly what I was told it was prior to coming here.

Likewise...

MORMONism isn’t exactly what I was told it was prior to joining it.

[presently no screen name]

Post of The Day.

[SoConPubbie]

Watch it there comrade! Your obamabot crimson red underwear is sticking out of your baggy pants a little.

Watch there comrade, you're starting to sound like a journalist for Pravda.

[NoGrayZone]

AMEN!

[NoGrayZone]

Your perfectly stated post deserves a thread of it’s own.

[Elsie]

PghBaldy Could anyone have imagined such an occurrence as this?

I know of one who did:

2 Timothy 4:3-4

3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

[Elsie]

Could anyone have imagined such an occurrence as this?

I know of one who did:

2 Timothy 4:3-4

3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

[presently no screen name]

You certainly go ballistic when you read info on Mormonism.

Do you get that way with info on Islam, atheism, darwinism, Aum Shinrikyo, Raëlism, Scientology, Order of the Solar Temple, Heaven’s Gate, Branch Davidians, Unification Church.

Have SOME RESPECT for those who are imparting knowledge on this cult. You can scroll on by if your conscious bothers you so much and can’t handle seeing exactly what you are voting for - FOR WHATEVER REASON!!

You’d probably be the first one to say, ‘I have no idea! Why did the GOP warn us? ‘ There is none so blind as those who REFUSE to see.

Who really is the idiot here?

[Elsie]

His religion is not one of them.

A Catholic that cares not about doctrine.

No WONDER they make such good MORMONism converts!

[Elsie]

Who will get to molest us at the airports and on the highways?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfO6ByjfgJk

[Elsie]

I never paid attention to you before.

You'd BETTER!!

For NOW there are at least TWO! of us!!

[Elsie]

Is hating Mormons a full time job for some of you?

No; Ma'am; we don't HATE Christians; just their HELLISH doctrines and creeds!

And; it AIN'T full time, either!

It's only about a year (or more if you're Mitt) and only 6 days a week, for around 10 hours a day.

There is PLENTY of time for us; personally, to do the kinds of things that young men like to do!

[Elsie]

I think you're a fruitcake too. Batshit crazy.

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"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."

---Joseph Knight's journal.

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"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.

(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),

"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.

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"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,

as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,

and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.

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In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:

"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."

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"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"

reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881

in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)

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In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:

 

 "When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,

Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12

June 15, 1879,  pp. 190-91.)

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Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:

 

"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"

("A New Witness for Christ in America,"

Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)

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"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."

---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.

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[presently no screen name]

Actually, it is getting funny to watch. I never saw such a group refusing to learn as them! And no one is making them read anything.

But they go viral on the poster who is imparting knowledge. We certainly can tell the good student from the bad student.

The bad student acting like a juvenile delinquent, throwing the book at the teacher, disrupting the class, rebellious, getting his group into mob mentality, ‘going to the principal’ to tell him what he thinks. LOL!!

[Elsie]

No one is voting for a minister. We are voting for a leader.

 

 

Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

November 1st, 2011

The message for this month is -

Primaries are coming up REAL soon; so we MUST stay on our mantra:

        We are NOT electing a pastor/pope, but a PRESIDENT!!

We've been taking a beating on the Internet - especially from those hateful ANTIs on FreeRepublic!

We MUST keep the media constantly informed of those things the world considers christian.

We must NOT allow our MORMONness to show thru, as it has gotten a really bad rap thru history - lord only knows why...

Tommy

[Elsie]

Hey!

It’s still early.

I’ve not yet been to town for breakfast and tractor gas.

[Elsie]

Real conservatives will not be getting a chance to vote for a conservative this election cycle for the presidency.

They WON'T??

I've not seen the National ballot yet. Where online can I find it??

[Lakeshark]

BUMP to your great post, unfortunately the Axelrod chorus here will not be capable of understanding what you said.

Here's one more reason:

The Axelrod chorus seems to believe we can control Bambi by having a more conservative congress.

To the Axelrod chorus: The man is lawless and has demonstrated that fact time and time again. He will be totally unrestrained if he wins this time, giving order after order to destroy everything we all claim to love and care for.

I'm sorry, I don't care for Mitt, but getting rid of the kind of stain that Bambi has brought to this country is the most important thing we can do right now. At the same time we have to get as many decent conservatives into office as possible.

Palin, along with every candidate FR has supported, is supporting the Mittster (obviously reluctantly), the whole time she is trying to push the country (and Mitt) to the right by electing as many conservatives as possible. It's the right thing to do, the obvious thing to do....

But don't expect the FR Axelrod chorus to understand.