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Michael Tomasky on the (Possible) Coming Obama Landslide
The Daily Beast ^ | Aug 4, 2012 | Michael Tomasky

Posted on 08/04/2012 11:56:32 PM PDT by Innovative

Liberals don't want to jinx it. It terrifies the right. And the press would prefer a nail-biter. But the fact is that finding Romney's path to victory is getting harder every day.

There's a secret lurking behind everything you're reading about the upcoming election, a secret that all political insiders know—or should—but few are talking about, most likely because it takes the drama out of the whole business. The secret is the electoral college, and the fact is that the more you look at it, the more you come to conclude that Mitt Romney has to draw an inside straight like you've never ever seen in a movie to win this thing. This is especially true now that it seems as if Pennsylvania isn't really up for grabs. Romney's paths to 270 are few.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chosenloserromney; elections; loserromney; obama; rinoromney; romney; weakromney
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To: DoughtyOne; Deagle

FDR’s policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt’s record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

“Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump,” said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA’s Department of Economics. “We found that a relapse isn’t likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies.”

“The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes,” Cole said. “Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened.”


41 posted on 08/05/2012 12:44:28 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Deagle

“You know Deagle, who delivered us into the Great Recession?”

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

I gave up on Bush, too, to the point where I left the party in 2007. However, Bush tried at least 18 times during his two terms to get the attention of the Congress to reform those two entities.

Barney Frank, et al said that they were doing a good job! Right up until six weeks before the housing collapse, and less than three months before the election.

It’s almost like it was planned. /s


42 posted on 08/05/2012 12:46:13 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Are you aware that Medicare Part D was passed with a Republican majority in the House and the Senate?

Romney himself says he needs to strike down Obamacare so he can replace it.

Am I telling you things you don’t know here?

You know as well as I do, that Bush nearly destroyed this nation. He had six years to fix the problems with the lending industry, with Republican majority rule. Did he?

What am I missing here? Is it okay if our side is the one that destroys the nation? That’s exactly what we nearly had happen. We’re on shaky ground right now. I’m not buying that rot any longer.

Neither should you.


43 posted on 08/05/2012 12:46:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: DoughtyOne

“NO MORE RINO LEFTISTS! “

Let’s have REAL MARXISTS leading the country instead! Terrific idea! (/s)


44 posted on 08/05/2012 12:46:56 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative

Yep, as long as it’s our Marxists(R), everything is just peachy.

You’re missing by a mile here.


45 posted on 08/05/2012 12:48:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: Deagle

If Romney were someone I trusted with the future of America, I would vote for him. Nothing in his past makes me think that his promises would last longer than it takes to get him elected.


46 posted on 08/05/2012 12:48:14 AM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: dixiechick2000

Your absolutely right! Not what does that do with delivering us out of Socialism and sure ruin? Both parties are at fault, Congress more so with their antics (again both parties) so what are we going to do? Sit back and let nature take it’s course - most corrupt wins, or fight back!


47 posted on 08/05/2012 12:48:53 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: dinodino

I’m not a Republican, I don’t like Boehner and I don’t like Romney.

It is what it is, though.

However, the TEA Party DOES have it’s victories. One thing I don’t see enough of is patience. It’s going to take several election cycles to get our people in office.

And, please, don’t talk to me like that.


48 posted on 08/05/2012 12:49:12 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000

He had a Republican majority in both houses for six years.

You’ve bought into a fairy tale, told to pacify folks who are critical of our side.

You know better than this. Think about it.


49 posted on 08/05/2012 12:49:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: Deagle

50 posted on 08/05/2012 12:49:47 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: DoughtyOne; Deagle

DO: “You know as well as I do, that Bush nearly destroyed this nation.”

Any surprised that DO is also against Romney and pro-Obama?

Only the most dedicated leftists would say that about President Bush.


51 posted on 08/05/2012 12:50:26 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Ingtar

I trust NO ONE with the future of America and no President should expect that! We are now trying to prevent America from becoming Greece - that is a big difference at this point in America’s future. You can participate or stand by and watch it happen. Seems that way too many are willing to be bystanders these days!


52 posted on 08/05/2012 12:51:48 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Ingtar

“If Romney were someone I trusted with the future of America, I would vote for him. “

And you think it’s smart to trust Obama with the future of America???!!!


53 posted on 08/05/2012 12:52:01 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: DoughtyOne; dinodino

To you and all of the other Romney-haters out there I would like to present a question to you: What if you’re wrong about Mitt? Isn’t there a chance he could surprise you and turn out to be a good president?


54 posted on 08/05/2012 12:54:20 AM PDT by dupree
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To: DoughtyOne

D1, I have a great deal of respect for you, but it’s hard to have a debate with you.

I told you that I gave up on Bush a long time ago, and I gave up on Congress, too.

He wasn’t outspoken enough.

I get that.

However, as I said upthread, it’s going to take several election cycles to get more fiscal conservatives into office...enough to have a real effect on the goings on in Congress.

It’s not going to happen this time. All we can do is vote in a way to mitigate the problems we are facing until we finally get TEA party types in the majority.


55 posted on 08/05/2012 12:54:48 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Patience...

00 1989 Reagan leaves office
04 1993 Clinton is sworn in
08 1997 Clinton is sworn in
12 2001 Bush is sworn in
16 2005 Bush is sworn in
20 2009 Obama is sworn in
24 2013 Romney or Obama will be sworn in
28 2017 Romney is sworn in again, or an open general election will decide whether an (R) or a (D) will be

Now, after 28 years, what gives you the idea we haven’t be patient. Please explain that one.


56 posted on 08/05/2012 12:55:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: dupree

Fairly damned unlikely. You are talking about the father of Romneycare and the guy who proudly signed an AWB. You HAVE read Romney’s record, right?


57 posted on 08/05/2012 12:56:14 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Innovative

Anyone who doesn’t see the clear and distinct difference between Obama and Romney is living in an alternate universe. At present, Obama is slowly dismantling our country. If he is reelected, he will have no restraints on what he can and will do. There won’t be a Conservative at some future date. What was a great country will be gone, and there will be no way to get it back.


58 posted on 08/05/2012 12:56:28 AM PDT by Essie
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To: dupree; DoughtyOne

We have some dedicated Bush haters here — read DO’s post 43.

One cannot reason with someone who thinks “Bush nearly destroyed the nation”.


59 posted on 08/05/2012 12:57:07 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You, my FRiend, are living in the past.

Haven’t you watched recent primaries?

It’s happening...our side is winning...but it’s going to take time.


60 posted on 08/05/2012 12:57:07 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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