[oh8eleven]

I posted this on another thread (now, with a correction):

I watched about 12-15 minutes and I wanted to barf. Grotesque.
If the Brits are so proud of their history, why didn't they include the 800 years of abuse and subjugation they forced on the Irish?
How about the cruelty in India for hundreds of years? Was the the Jallianwala Bagh massacre represented?
Feckin' elitist, arrogant, limey pricks.

[moose07]

Peter Loo

Don’t worry the same elitist bastards dished it out at home as well, the violence was all-inclusive. No one was safe from ‘The Establishment’.

"Jallianwala Bagh "
Reginald E.H. Dyer was removed from duty and forced to retire. He became a celebrated hero in Britain among people with connections to the British Raj.(The Establishment). The massacre caused a reevaluation of the Army's role in which the new policy became minimum force, and the Army was retrained and developed suitable tactics such as crowd control. Historians considered the episode as a decisive step towards the end of British rule in India.

[VanDeKoik]

Should Atlanta have showed slaves getting whipped or the KKK?

[Vanders9]

Thank you for those few kind words.

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

Well, they didn’t seem to mention the Empire at all, even though there is much about it to be proud of.

In any case, would you septics be happy to have an opening ceremony full of references to slavery, the ethnic cleansing of native Americans and racial segregation? Or would you rather focus on the good bits?

[Cronos]

well, they didn't abuse the Irish for 800 years. Until 1168 time the Irish were pretty much on their own with their own High Kings. Yes, the Normans invaded, but they become very Irish -- hibernios ipsos hibernis! More irish than the irish themselves. The Normans controlled the coast while the Irish were pretty much to themselves in the interior. Then the Tudors came in 1536 (henry 8) but this was nothing compared to the genocide that Cromwell visited on the Irish, yes genocide

This is the time when the Irish stereotypes were laid -- as drunken savages closer to monkeys than humans (I kid you not, that is what the English under Cromwell and into Victorian times saw the irish as).

They didn't impose cruelty on India for hundreds of years -- they only ruled India for 150 years, the first 50 being Company rule. From 1850 until the 1920s there were incidents of cruelty -- some extremely cruel like Jallianwala bagh, but the English had the sense to realise that if they were constantly cruel, they would lose their empire quickly