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1 posted on 07/29/2012 8:40:46 PM PDT by redreno
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Ok I won’t buy an AK-47. I’ll buy this Remington 30 06 semi automatic rifle with scope!


92 posted on 07/29/2012 11:59:32 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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Let me see if I have this right. You said, “But you do not need an AK-47”. hmmm..I’d have to say I agree with you on that ...YOU do not need an AK-47 and YOU DO NOT NEED to say anything about what anyone needs


94 posted on 07/30/2012 12:31:41 AM PDT by 1madmarine
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But what is average? The average human has one testicle, one ovary, and one breast capable of lactation at some point in their life.

I'm not average, at least not that way, and I'd wager few gun owners are.

Ergo, I reckon I need one.

98 posted on 07/30/2012 1:12:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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But you do not need an AK-47.

For this pantywaist writer:

When the police put up their .38 specials in favor of Glock .40s and decided they were 'so outgunned' by the criminal class that they needed select fire Stoner variant rifles (M-16s) to keep up with the thugs, In order for me to adequately defend my family it became necessary for me to possess the most capable firearm I could afford.

After a great deal of research, there were two firearms which shone in terms of reliability: The M1A and the AK-47. Pity I had trouble affording the former, and the latter we could afford to obtain were watered down semiautomatic versions of the most widely used battle rifle in the world.

Why a 'battle rifle'? Well, because criminals can arm themselves with anything, they have nothing to lose, and do not operate within the law like those of us who try to color within the lines do. Literally anything they can find and afford is fair game--after all, that's why the police forces around the country told us they were upgrading their arsenals.

Now, at the time, a reliable, East Bloc firearm was selling for between $250 and $350, magazines (they aren't clips, BTW) were fairly cheap, and the ammo was, too. The SKS, another reliable but slightly less capable rifle was only about $100.00, and it used the same ammo as the semiautomatic AK clone, just generally 10 rounds before reloading, instead of 27 (only load your magazines to 90% to prevent malfunctions).

For about $500.00, a couple could have enough arms and ammo to defend their home against all sorts of miscreants--cheaper than the average decent pistol--and with enough ammo to become reasonably proficient.

Now, alarms only make noise and call the folks who will figure out what happened before they arrived. All that's fine if you live somewhere response times are down in the single digits, but most places just aren't like that, and out here in the boonies, the best advice I ever got came from a County Sheriff who learned I had been threatened by one of the criminal class and only had three deputies to cover a huge area: "Just be sure you are the one around to fill out the paperwork."

Yes, I need an AK. Any further questions?

102 posted on 07/30/2012 3:13:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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We don’t “need” CNN, either...


103 posted on 07/30/2012 3:16:33 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Roland Martin:

Flaming racist leftard, Obama apologist and CNN talking head.

Not worth the time of day.


104 posted on 07/30/2012 3:23:46 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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He is right really... you don’t need an AK-47 when an SKS will do the job just fine.... 7.62x39


106 posted on 07/30/2012 4:15:53 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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I agree with the headline. Average Americans DO NOT need assault weapons. I don’t have one, nor do I want one.

But it’s sure great that my neighbor on one side has one, and so do two people up the street. And it’s great that I can still buy one, when I do think it will be necessary, and when I think that I can safely handle and store it.

And I’ll vote AGAINST anyone that wants to change any of the above.


108 posted on 07/30/2012 4:25:51 AM PDT by BobL ( It's easy to be a saint when you have nothing on the line)
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No worries. The idiots in the media do not realize that AK-47s can be constructed using simple tools. A semi-skilled machinist with a decently equipped metal shop could churn out AKs with abandon.

When I had HS shop back in the day we had a guy make a 1911 frame. Some ninnyhammer got wind of it and there was a stink.

Obviously, the soloution is to ban metal shops and lock up all the machinists.

109 posted on 07/30/2012 4:35:09 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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And yet another classic example of how stupid the gun grabbers really are. So ‘assault’ rifles are bad, but handguns are ok? I wonder if this idiot is aware than about 80% of all gun-related crime involves the use of a handgun, compared to around 5% with any kind of rifle?

We’re dealing with morons, folks.


110 posted on 07/30/2012 4:40:18 AM PDT by VOR78
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“But you do not need an AK-47.”

Hell, I don’t *need* a car. I could walk, or bike.

However, life is not all about “need”. In this country, if we “want” something, and it’s legal, we may get it.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Americans owning AR rifles, or AKs if they prefer to slum a little bit. There is a proud tradition of Americans owning and shooting the same rifles used by the military. AR rifles make great hunting and target rifles, with the added benefit that if necessary they are also fine defensive weapons, especially with hi-cap magazines.

What I really don’t need is some joker from CNN telling me what to do. I hope he ends up in a SHTF situation with nothing but his bare hands...


112 posted on 07/30/2012 4:54:01 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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Sure they do! With all of the gun grabbing commies trying to infringe on the 2nd amendment and other rights Americans need them more than ever.


114 posted on 07/30/2012 5:02:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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I think ICE-T had the right response to those who want to restrict the average Joe’s access to any form of self defense weapons.

Guns are required to stand up to a repressive government.

If I was the NRA I would get ICE-T’s written permission to rerun that quote every time a liberal-progressive-socalists-dimocrat claim that there is no need for the average Joe to have “assault” weapons. I would then also replay the final assault at Waco and then end with “Questions?”

117 posted on 07/30/2012 5:57:41 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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The VAST majority of gun crimes are pistols. An AR, AK or any type of rifle is seldom used.

That said, for defending your home, I have pistols in case I run out of rifle ammo. Rifles are much more lethal in skilled hands.


118 posted on 07/30/2012 6:04:41 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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I’m not looking for an AK-47. I’m waiting for this maxim to unfold: Your enemy will bring to you the weapons you need to defeat him - Mao Tsetung.

I’m sure the untrained 400-pound morons in homelend security will drop off something much better than an AK.


119 posted on 07/30/2012 6:06:27 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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In my best Archie Bunker voice: “Would it make you feel any better, little liberal, if they was pushed out of windows?”


120 posted on 07/30/2012 7:10:56 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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My buddy had a very good counter-argument: The COPS don't need them either. IF they ever encounter someone with a military-grade semi-automatic rifle, they do NOT need to match him, round-for-round, in a spray-and-pray contest. ONE bullet from a .45 service revolver... or, even if he has body armor, ONE round from any decent deer rifle... and the encounter is over. And yet, dozens, if not HUNDREDS, of police stations across the country have even 50 cal BMGs ($10,000 monsters that I'd give my cousins away in trade for), and yet have never once been used in an appropriate police action. If the police get rid of THEIR big toys, then MAYBE we can talk about getting rid of ours.

But my counter-point to my buddy is that someday we will need to encounter at least some part of our own military head-to-head... and having a few matching personal arms would be very important at that time.

121 posted on 07/30/2012 7:22:55 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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Just what I need -- some ignorant, arrogant city-slicker telling me what I 'need' and 'what I can do'.

ESAD, Roland Martin. And everyone else who thinks like you.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

123 posted on 07/30/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Average Americans don't need assault weapons

It's The Bill of RIGHTS, not the bill of needs.

125 posted on 07/30/2012 10:29:45 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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“To all of you gun lovers, feel free to go buy your Glock, shotgun, hunting rifle, .22 pistol, .357 Magnum or any of the other guns at your disposal.”

For now, just until they get THIS piece bitten off the Second Amendment. Next time they will take bites off your Glock!

In point of fact, AK-47s and AR-15s are too large and too expensive for criminal use and maniacs are never deterred by laws anyway.

Further, the Second Amendment is all about MILITARY style weaponry, NOT hunting. Fully automatic weapons are currently HIGHLY regulated and unavailable to the average user.

These jackasses are so transparent. Do anything you can to get one type of weapon out of citizen hands, then proceed to the NEXT subject. And on, and on, and on, until you create a society of helpless unarmed sheep as, for instance, in England and Norway.

Its ESSENTIAL to fight this battle in the Congress, the Courts and anywhere else we need to. Scalia’s comments are indicative of the fact that even our friends can be swayed by maniac who kill with guns, and maniacs in the news media.

Chris (Are you a flake?) Wallace's interview and Scalia’s chilling response indicates that all the logic initially thrown out after the Colorado massacre by Lott and others on the realities of gun control’s failures, just evaporated in the wake of Michael Bloomberg’s comments and those who think emote like him.

136 posted on 07/30/2012 1:54:45 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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