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To: rurgan
But China manufactures at least ten times more because their currency is undervalued.

No they don't.

You call me an idiot but you don't even understand how China manipulates currency

I've asked you before, explain. Spell it out.

Be as precise as you can.

Ok let me try to make this simple for all of you free traders who don't understand.

Irony is ironic.

My worker in China makes 10 shirts per day. so 8 hour work day X .50 cents per hour = 4 + $10 IN U.S.A = $14 . IN U.SA I have pay a workers 20 dollars an hour so I pay $160 for that worker to make 10 shirts ,$160 + $10 = $170

Here's where your 1st grade math fails. The American worker is 80 times more productive. Your Chinese worker makes 10 shirts for $4 and the American makes 800 shirts for $160.

399 posted on 08/02/2012 2:45:20 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
China has the newer factories, newer equipment, newer machines etc. .so China workers are more productive..

If U.S. workers are so productive then why does China make most of the consumer electronics in the world, most of the world's steel in tons? When 9 billion people in the world turn over their consumer products they see “Made in China”. We the U.S. can't even make our own consumer electronics much less those of the world.

The government has been huge for decades, government regulations have been onerous and numerous for decades . Yes that hurts the U.S. but as you can see from this graph it is only after Clinton signed the china free trade agreement and the U.S. started trading with China much more that the U.S. job creation and economy got annihilated:


402 posted on 08/02/2012 3:14:07 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; BfloGuy; 3Fingas; central_va; Cringing Negativism Network; WilliamofCarmichael; ...
China is doing many things to destroy America and our American dream. China practices massive currency manipulation but that is just one of many things China does to wage war and against Americans and to destroy America.This article is just one more example of how china is destroying what remains of U.S. manufacturing and so destroying is the U.S.A. . Every American should read this article:

https://www.stlbeacon.org/?_escaped_fragment_=/content/23613/anti_dum
12:07 am on Mon, 03.26.12
WASHINGTON – Steel wheels, nails and bedsprings made in Missouri are on the list. So are pipes, paintbrushes and coat hangers from Illinois. Not to mention a host of other products, from Silicon Valley electronics to Detroit auto parts.

If it seems that the Chinese are throwing cheaper versions of everything but the kitchen sink at U.S. markets, think again. This month, an Illinois kitchen-sink manufacturer — the Elkay Cos. — asked Washington to slap an “anti-dumping” tariff on Chinese steel sinks.

Whether the product is sinks or steel wheels, the complaints by U.S. manufacturers allege that China unfairly subsidizes the plants that make such products, allowing exporters to sell them in this country at less than fair market value.

In the most recent Missouri case, executives of Hayes Lemmerz — an international steel wheels manufacturer that employs more than 300 people at its plant in Sedalia — asked the U.S. International Trade Commission on March 8 to order punitive duties against Chinese imports that they contend unfairly undercut their prices.

“Don’t let dumped Chinese wheels shut down these plants and cost these good, hardworking Americans their jobs,” said Donald Hampton Jr., who supervises the steel-wheel plants in Sedalia and Akron, Ohio.

U.S. manufacturing jobs have declined by 36% in the last decade and that is because of trade with other countries. millions of Americans have lost their jobs because of that. We have to stop China now.

China has been destroying the U.S.A. China has caused untold misery, unemployment, homelessness and killed many Americans by denying them a chance to make a living.

So by your logic we have to allow china to do anything to the U.S.A. and Americans individuals or American companies as long as they call it “trade” or economics.NO we need the military for stopping China from invading the U.S. with troops . likewise we need to stop China's economic war against the U.S.A and from what China is doing to Americans. We need the government to protect Americans against armies, against China, against immigrants, against anything foreign. By your logic then we have to allow U.S companies to import an unlimited number of immigrants also( are you for that too?)Yes we need to limit government inside the border but we need a border and to protect that border against immigrants , china , the UN, WTO, .We need a fortress America .We must be for America first and let China go to hell! I declare war against China.I am ready to give it all up and to fight in a war against China . I would enlist right away. I only hope war breaks out as China is buying up the U.S.A and the world without firing a shot.I would rather die figthing China than to live as their slave. I want war and I want vengeance against China. Pass this article on to all you know.

429 posted on 08/02/2012 5:44:00 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; BfloGuy; 3Fingas; central_va; Cringing Negativism Network; WilliamofCarmichael; ...
China is doing many things to destroy America and our American dream. China practices massive currency manipulation but that is just one of many things China does to wage war against Americans and to destroy America.This article is just one more example of how china is destroying what remains of U.S. manufacturing and so China is destroying the U.S.A. . Every American should read this article:

https://www.stlbeacon.org/?_escaped_fragment_=/content/23613/anti_dum
12:07 am on Mon, 03.26.12
WASHINGTON – Steel wheels, nails and bedsprings made in Missouri are on the list. So are pipes, paintbrushes and coat hangers from Illinois. Not to mention a host of other products, from Silicon Valley electronics to Detroit auto parts.

If it seems that the Chinese are throwing cheaper versions of everything but the kitchen sink at U.S. markets, think again. This month, an Illinois kitchen-sink manufacturer — the Elkay Cos. — asked Washington to slap an “anti-dumping” tariff on Chinese steel sinks.

Whether the product is sinks or steel wheels, the complaints by U.S. manufacturers allege that China unfairly subsidizes the plants that make such products, allowing exporters to sell them in this country at less than fair market value.

In the most recent Missouri case, executives of Hayes Lemmerz — an international steel wheels manufacturer that employs more than 300 people at its plant in Sedalia — asked the U.S. International Trade Commission on March 8 to order punitive duties against Chinese imports that they contend unfairly undercut their prices.

“Don’t let dumped Chinese wheels shut down these plants and cost these good, hardworking Americans their jobs,” said Donald Hampton Jr., who supervises the steel-wheel plants in Sedalia and Akron, Ohio.

U.S. manufacturing jobs have declined by 36% in the last decade and that is because of trade with other countries. millions of Americans have lost their jobs because of that. We have to stop China now.

China has been destroying the U.S.A. China has caused untold misery, unemployment, homelessness and killed many Americans by denying them a chance to make a living.

So by your logic we have to allow china to do anything to the U.S.A. and Americans individuals or American companies as long as they call it “trade” or economics.NO we need the military for stopping China from invading the U.S. with troops . likewise we need to stop China's economic war against the U.S.A and from what China is doing to Americans. We need the government to protect Americans against armies, against China, against immigrants, against anything foreign. By your logic then we have to allow U.S companies to import an unlimited number of immigrants also( are you for that too?)Yes we need to limit government inside the border but we need a border and to protect that border against immigrants , china , the UN, WTO, .We need a fortress America .We must be for America first and let China go to hell! I declare war against China.I am ready to give it all up and to fight in a war against China . I would enlist right away. I only hope war breaks out as China is buying up the U.S.A and the world without firing a shot.I would rather die figthing China than to live as their slave. I want war and I want vengeance against China. Pass this article on to all you know.

432 posted on 08/02/2012 5:51:53 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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