Obama urges tighter background checks on gun buyers after Aurora massacre

Yahoo! News ^ | July 25, 2012 | Olivier Knox

[Whats-wrong-with-the-truth]

"Obama urges tighter background checks on gun buyers after Aurora massacre"

But... If you are a member of a Mexican drug cartel see his man Holder and you'll be dialed in no questions asked.

[LambSlave]

This gun owner doesn’t agree with “sporting purpose” or background checks of any kind. The second amendment was to prevent government tyranny not ensure hunters had access to firearms, so citizens should be able to own any weapon they can afford. Criminals and crazies will always find a way to get guns, all these checks and waiting periods do is incovenience those who play by the rules.

[KeyLargo]

Unbelievable article written by a Chicago ‘Lib-une’ Tribune columnist Steve Chapman, who usually follows the lib party line but this time explains very well how more gun laws will not do anything.

Read at:

Note: The Libune requires subscription to read articles but you can avoid it when the page loads just click ‘Print preview’ and scroll down to read. :)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-oped-0726-chapman-20120726,0,7623949.column

[RatRipper]

that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a gun so easily," he said. "These steps shouldn't be controversial. They should be common sense.

In other news, all Tea Party members have been deemed to be "mentally unbalanced". Psychologists are owned by the left. It is one of the places they started, hence, homosexuality is normal and not a disorder.

[Whats-wrong-with-the-truth]

"i.e. armed force,"

Why do rinos (aka liberals), always see fit to revamp what's written. The second half of the second amendment says, "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
No one is arguing that we need a military (aka militia) to protect us from foreign enemies. That is a given and addressed in the first half of the amendment but... "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" is another topic altogether and that right "shall not be infringed."

Notice also that the second amendment does NOT limit the types of arms we as citizens may possess.

Wake up people. We have a tyrant in the White House. His lieutenant Eric Holder is ramping up his domestic "emergency responders" to seize control and to lock us down. Obomba is NOT going to let go of the White House.

Everybody in America that the Constitution says can be armed needs to be armed.

Just sayin.

[Eye of Unk]

I don’t have nor want an AK 47 you lying idiot.

[KeyLargo]

July 26, 2012 4:00 A.M.

Colorado Consensus on Gun Laws
Broadly supported post-Columbine reforms balance gun rights and gun control.

By Dave Kopel

Concealed Carry Act

The most important element of the Colorado reforms is the Concealed Carry Act, which became law in 2003. This law strongly protects the right of law-abiding adults to carry handguns for the defense of self and others. Forty other states have similar laws.

The reform has so far thwarted at least one massacre. In December 2007, a man murdered two teenagers at the Youth with a Mission training center in the Denver suburbs. He then drove south to Colorado Springs and attacked the New Life megachurch in Colorado Springs. He killed two people in the parking lot and then entered the building, carrying hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Fortunately, a volunteer security guard for the church, Jeanne Assam, was carrying a licensed handgun, and she quickly shot the attacker. According to Pastor Brady Boyd, “she probably saved over 100 lives.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/312322/colorado-consensus-gun-laws-dave-kopel

[Dead Corpse]

He must really think we are stupid... Holmes had ONE speeding ticket on his record and nothing else. There is NOTHING, shy of self admission of intent, that would have raised a red flag.

Then again, Romney's lukewarm, milquetoast response that we don't need new laws kinda overlooks the fact that we have tons of gun laws already on the books that shouldn't be there that create these deadly victim disarmament zones.

A pox on both their Houses...

[PapaBear3625]

I'm guessing that Barry's handlers want a larger version of what the VA did a few years ago, when the names of servicemen who *voluntarily* sought mental health treatment were dumped into the NICS background check computers. Odds are, it's already hidden in the Obamacare text.

It's almost certainly either in the ObamaCare text, or will be implemented by Executive Order. That's one big reason why they wanted all medical record-keeping to be digital.

[PapaBear3625]

"A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals -- that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities," the president, who has called for reimposing the Assault Weapons Ban, said in a speech to the National Urban League.

Lost in this is the fact that Holmes used an AR-15, not an AK. The Dems don't like AK's being available to regular folk because they're cheaper than AR-15s. This means that a guy who couldn't afford an AR-15 COULD afford to get an AK and keep it on a closet shelf, along with some ammo, just in case of zombie apocalypse.

[huldah1776]

That could very well be the symbol of the second amendment - 5 smooth stones in a sling.

[RatRipper]

I remember it well and I am with you all the way. My point is that the Left always seeks to subvert truth, reason, logic and fact to get what they want. Just because the facts are obvious and well known, does not mean that they will not be successful in their gun control efforts.

[Still Thinking]

The One finally speaks. We never saw this coming, eh?

But just BEFORE election???

He doesn't even have Congress, I don't see the advantage of sticking his neck out and talking about this now, before the election. It's not like he has an across-the-board majority that he thinks he might lose if he waits till after election. WTF?

I guess if they're really dedicated to the idea, true believers, they might be willing to sacrifice themselves, and could be reserving the option of doing it during the lame duck session if they lose the Senate or the Presidency. I think lame duck sessions should be abolished. If a guy with an HONEST job in a sensitive position gets fired, they escort him to his desk to get his stuff, then out the door, yet politicians, who SHOULD be assumed to be the worst scum conceivable, are allowed to make laws of the land for another month or two after being fired, and for some reason we're expected to treat those laws as valid just like we are any other they inflict on us.

[Gritty]

How about tighter background checks on Presidents? Let's start with...

...original birth certificate
...college transcripts and records
...passport records
...known connections to criminals and known terrorists
...citizenship and/or naturalization records
...Illinois Bar Association records
...membership in subversive organizations and/or political parties
...radical Muslim affiliations and sympathies

That's just a short list for starters, Mr. Pres__ent. Maybe if somebody (like the media or even the hapless GOP) had done that job in the first place we could have avoided a lot worse criminality, danger, and national destruction than some odd weirdo shooting up a movie theater in Aurora.

[TheOldLady]

I wonder if Obama would be for gun control and tighter regulations if it was imposed on liberals first?

Or on minorities first, you know, just to see if it makes a difference? According to him the 2nd amendment is just to protect hunting rights and minorities and liberals are not usually big on hunting, so why do I suspect it would not go over well among his constituency to try such a thing?

Or on O'blame-a's Secret Service protectors. Come on, O'blame-a! Lead by example!

[Bender2]

Re: I don’t have nor want an AK 47 you lying idiot.

Pastor Niemolle said the following about the Nazis gaining total power in Germany:

"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

“Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

“Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

“Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.”

It can also go like this in the very near future if we listen to your above logic:

“First they came for the assault rifles and I did not speak out because I did not own one.

“Then they came for the semi-automatic rifles and I did not speak out because I did not own one.

“Then they came for the handguns and I did not speak out because I did not own one.

“Then they came for the rest of the bolt-action, lever-action and single shot hunting/sporting rifles and I did not speak out because I did not own one.

“Then they came for the shotguns and I did not speak out because I did not own one.

“Then they came for me and there was not one gun in private hands to defend me.”

And, yes, Eye of Unk, if this should ever come to pass in my lifetime, I will be there with my guns, including both semi-automatic AR-15s and AK-47s, to protect even you--

[PhilDragoo]

Operation Aurora, Reichstag Fire for the New Millenium.

In the manner of Stalin's cult of personality, 19% of Americans are said to have mental illness.

Critics of the national security state are to be disarmed and committed to re-education.

And, to the Islamo-Commie crack-smoking closet-queen:

You have thwarted your own background check at every turn.

Son of El Hajj Malik Al-Shabazz, bowing to Keeper of the Holy Sites, flexible for the KGB officer in the Kremlin--

Background check?

After you.

[Sola Veritas]

“Then our lovely representatives add some more - the domestic violence/restraining order clause was slipped in in the dead of night - then people who had misdemeanors that would be classed as felonies today were added to the list, so the numbers of unqualifed grew.”

I’m afraid they are going to sneak in adding vets diagnosed with PTSD as restricted from firearm purchase. Think of all those vets coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan that were “encouraged” to seek help. Now, it could be turned on them.

Seems to me I remember that when they first started “checks” the VA put every Vietnam vet that had claimed PTSD on the list as mentally ill.

[mylife]

Touche!

[Elsie]

"A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals -- that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities," the president, who has called for reimposing the Assault Weapons Ban, said in a speech to the National Urban League.

"I believe the majority of gun owners would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons; that we should check someone's criminal record before they can check out a gun seller; that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a gun so easily," he said. "These steps shouldn't be controversial. They should be common sense."

Barry; we do this NOW!!