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To: Fred Garvin-MP
This is the form that I was referring to that is suspect. Philman just quoted the passage on race classifications and it doesn't jibe with this report. Here's are the race classifications from the 1961 Natality Report:

white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."

Here are the race codes from Dr. Conspiracy's "tape file":
White, Negro, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Filipino, Other Non white, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (NOT combined) ...

Where's "filipino" in the Natality Report paragraph?? Why isn't Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian combined for the tape files??

Further, I mentioned that the Dr. Conspiracy file came from a source that didn't even exist yet. The header on the tape file pages says "Division of Data Processing" ... here's a paragraph from the "U.S. Vital Statistics System: Major Activities and Developments, 1950-95 (Includes reprint of "History and Organization of the Vital Statistics System" to 1950)":

Effective in September 1963, NCHS was reorganized, with the Division of Vital Statistics becoming one of five operating divisions. This reorganization separated support activities, such as data processing and publication activities, from the substantive vital statistics program operations.

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Dr. Nonsense's tape file, which is supposed to be for 1960 as well as 1961, but it jibes even less with the 1960 Natality Report's race classifications which classifies almost everything after Japanese as other non white.

71 posted on 07/24/2012 12:20:26 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

Here’s why the difference between what Zullo referenced and what Dr Con referenced. They came from different documents, since Dr Con could not locate the document that Zullo referenced. Here’s Dr Con at http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/03/decoding-the-long-form-part-1/ :

“According to the response to my FOIA request to the Department of Health and Human Services, the unpublished manual “Coding and Punching Geographical and Personal Particulars for Births Occurring in 1961” that is referenced on PDF page 228 of VSUS could not be found and they suggest that such a document never actually existed. However, they did point me to Geographic coding manual for 1961 and provided tape layouts for that year (but no coding manual). In particular, they told me that the “Vital Statistics Instruction Manual for 1961” (cited by Johansson and Crosby) with the exception of the Geographic coding manual could not be located. I filed an appeal and they replied that they checked again with all the subject matter experts, and no such document exists today.”

Dr. Con knows the document he has is not the document Zullo referred to; in fact, long after he made the request for this document he’s now citing he stated on his own site that the document Zullo referenced does not exist.”

Zullo says it exists. Now who would you believe - Zullo, or Dr. Con? Johannsen says he got it from a state government, not the feds. So Dr. Con knows he is comparing apples and oranges.


222 posted on 07/25/2012 4:50:42 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: edge919

“Effective in September 1963, NCHS was reorganized, with the Division of Vital Statistics becoming one of five operating divisions. This reorganization separated support activities, such as data processing and publication activities, from the substantive vital statistics program operations. “

Where in that do you get the idea that the Division of Data Processing was CREATED by that reorganization?


241 posted on 07/27/2012 12:28:53 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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