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Homeowner Pulls Gun To Stop New Electric Meter From Being Installed
The Consumerist ^ | July 19, 2012 | Chris Morran

Posted on 07/19/2012 3:41:33 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

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To: loungitude

Exactly. If a utility has a meter on your property, then the utility needs to have access to it. I don’t know how others work, but I would assume most wouldn’t show up un-announced (sheduled readings, meter changes, etc.), unless in an emergency situation.
Aren’t these meters optional? Our provider has them and thermostats, but they’re not mandatory (yet!).


61 posted on 07/19/2012 4:59:29 PM PDT by jughandle
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To: svcw

We just received a letter from our utility company asking for permission to install a smart meter on our air conditioner unit(also our heater). I think as owners of the electrical supply the company does have a right to say how they will monitor and charge for the electricity. However, when the company starts telling me how I can use their (and there are questions about that) product to the extent of modifying my equipment their ‘service’ goes far beyond just supplying a product and service. My wife and I have decided to tell the company thanks ($50) but no go on some other dudes telling us how we use what we buy.


62 posted on 07/19/2012 5:02:14 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Elderberry
I can see it reporting your usage, but now what is running in your home.

As someone that recently worked for a company that manufactured smart meters of all kinds (electric, gas and water), I can say that they have looked at ways to sell that information. A big one is possibly selling information to insurance companies which could be used to pattern behavior.

Imagine the insurance companies seeing an increase in electricity consumption every Saturday and Sunday morning at approximately 2:30am, which is about the time you get home from the bar. You come in turn on several lights, maybe whip up some early breakfast, etc.

Just another tool to let them pattern your behavior. There are some benefits to technology, but the negatives are even worse.

63 posted on 07/19/2012 5:02:47 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: hoskinsr3106

“Private Industry”? It’s a government enforced monopoly. When I can choose from a group of energy providers you will actually have a point.


64 posted on 07/19/2012 5:06:41 PM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: TXnMA
How about a two man pool?

Rock falls through the roof in the first year: I give you 10K.
Second year: 9K.
Third year: 8K.
Fourth year: 7K.
Fifth year: 6K.
Sixth year: 5K.
Seventh year: 4K.
Eighth year: 3K.
Ninth year: 2K.
Tenth year: 1K.

Anytime after that you give me 10K.

Given your boast the rules are kinda skewed in your favor but I don't care.

What do you say, punk?


65 posted on 07/19/2012 5:22:05 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: TXnMA
Oops, I already must have rocks in my head. I called you a punk when I meant to call you an ignorant punk.

66 posted on 07/19/2012 5:25:41 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

i don’t think this is semantics but if she showed him a gun, say in her hand hanging at her side pointed to the ground, i think that is different than pulling a gun on him which i think means poiting it at him. but i work with technical writers and we have a need for precision in verbage.


67 posted on 07/19/2012 5:27:27 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“If he was on her property and she told him to leave, he was trespassing.”

I don’t know. Public utilities are granted easements by states to get to their property. I’ll be looking for a follow-up to the story.


68 posted on 07/19/2012 5:29:10 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: TXnMA; I see my hands

Be careful, Tex. You messin’ with the baddest dude on the Internet. He’s got tattoos to prove it.


69 posted on 07/19/2012 5:29:55 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: sergeantdave

And most utilities post a notice a day or two before the work starts.


70 posted on 07/19/2012 5:31:14 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Rennes Templar; All

My sons elec bills have gone up 30% since last summer
since he had a smart meter installed...

also when I went to visit several months ago in 2 days I became to hurt so much and had terrible headaches and had trouble sleeping at night...
I am sensitive to cell phones and don’t use them...
I happened to look at his meter and noticed it was a smart meter..
I moved to the bedroom the most distance from the meter
and the problems were 90% reduced and 100% by the next night

I was happy to get back to the country where we don’t have smart meters


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72 posted on 07/19/2012 5:32:59 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: RFEngineer; loungitude
If you keep spouting factual truth you're going to spoil the testosterone fest we've got going on here ;-)
73 posted on 07/19/2012 5:33:09 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: don-o

74 posted on 07/19/2012 5:38:34 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Rennes Templar

Around here the power company has all kinds of radio commercials with some idiot stating that the new smart meters will allow us to make “smart decisions” about how and when to use electricity.

I can do that now, thank you.


75 posted on 07/19/2012 5:41:24 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Always remember that there is more than one way to skin a cat besides sticking the cats head in a boot-jack & yanking on the tail.
Time is coming to start getting creative folks cause the politicians view you as a peasant who has a DUTY to kiss ass & suck d*ck & if you object to loudly they are not above using the police power of the state to give you a lesson in good manners.


76 posted on 07/19/2012 5:42:01 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: don-o; I see my hands

Brother is sporting a new Mittens tattoo, last I heard. Damn shame.


77 posted on 07/19/2012 5:47:37 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Rennes Templar

This whole thing is a TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT for Texas. First of all, pulling a gun on someone that is not breaking the law is simply WRONG and is very risky. What if he had his own gun, for example? This lady likely will get arrested and jailed, and should.

Having said that, like most others here, I LOVE HER!!! She will be taking the arrows for millions of us who don’t want a criminal record attached to our names. Believe me, I DEFINITELY do not want a “Smart Meter”, and when the guy came (and I was home) I asked if I had a choice - he said no - and that was as far as I went.

Now, what is the RIGHT answer. Well, in a PROPERLY FUNCTIONING state, the state government would have examined just what these meters are and what risks they pose (such as virtually telling anyone accessing their data when the homeowners are at work or are on vacation). Then, in a PROPERLY FUNCTIONING state, a means would have been created to allow concerned people to opt out. In other words, this lady would have paid, maybe $10 a month more for power, and would NOT have had to draw on the poor installer.

But we’re talking Texas here. We have a TOTAL LOSER as a governor, and the VERY LAST thing that he’s concerned about is the privacy of Texans (heck, he’s trying to impose a GPS vehicle tracking system on us, for tolling). So no hope there. In addition, he has his share of bitches in the state legislature, with Dewhurst just finding out now that his chances of making it to the US Senate basically died with his sucking up.

It is really sad that California, of all states, has done more to protect homeowner privacy than Texas. For in California, people can opt-out (and they don’t need a gun to do it), just by asking and paying a fee for the guy to come by and read the meter.


78 posted on 07/19/2012 5:47:44 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Talisker; tgusa

“...intruding on people’s property at the point of a gun to install something they believe will harm them...”

Talisker, I cannot believe you posted what I am reading...did you read tgusa’s post? Did you understand it? His nephew was a meter reader in a nasty neighborhood, and after being hassled/threatened on several occasions, he got a CCW for protection when making his rounds. He was not installing anything...he was reading meters. Got a problem with that? Got a problem with the nephew being ready to protect himself doing his job?

Where is the ‘ignorance’...


79 posted on 07/19/2012 5:47:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: yldstrk
good for her

Yes, God bless her total ignorance. Those meters transmit at about 20 milliwatt at 2.4 Ghtz while the cell phone she holds to her ear transmits at 5 watts at 2.4 Ghtz.

Ignorance is bliss, and they vote.

80 posted on 07/19/2012 5:48:27 PM PDT by GingisK
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