Posted on 07/17/2012 5:11:59 AM PDT by xzins
Without going to great lengths to establish that there is continuing dissatisfaction with Mitt Romney as the Republican nominee for the presidency, let us play the game of "What If". What if the convention were to somehow become open? Who would you want to be the Republican nominee?
If we were to point out that Romney did not win the support of two-thirds of the primary voters, the reply would be that the process is engineered that way. When there are more than two candidates, one shouldn't be surprised to see a candidate polling much more than a third. That is reasonable. However, it doesn't mitigate the fact that most were not Romney supporters.
We will balance this out in the game of "What If" by placing any of the candidates who ran against Mitt marginally off limits. Participants in the game should not pick Pawlenty, Bachman, Johnson, Huntsman, Paul, Gingrich, Cain, Perry, or Santorum. They have all already lost. We will leave the option open, though, because many believe Romney was aided by the GOP-E, by a complicit media in the tank for him, and by an enormous financial advantage. So, if you absolutely must write-in Bachman's name, then go ahead and do it. (We couldn't really stop you, anyway.)
My criteria for a candidate would be that they be a real conservative. This is the complaint most heard about Romney, that he is a lifelong liberal who governed as a liberal. There is good reason for seeing Romney in this light since just weeks ago he came out in favor of gay couples. Moreover, he announced that at the state level those gay couples should be allowed to adopt children. This is not ancient history. This is recent. Folks might say that Romney has changed here or there, that he's converted to this or that, but the gay couple and gay adoption thing is brand new.
It underscore for those of us who don't support the man that he truly is a radical liberal, and that it's liberalism that's in his bloodstream and not anything that is severely conservative.
So, who would you support if the convention were to open up? If you were a delegate and if Romney announced he was stepping down, to which leader would you turn?
For me, it would have to first be a pro-life candidate. Life is a right and not an issue. Life shouldn't be taken except by due process of law, and that only after one has committed a violation that warrants the death penalty. A pre-born child could never commit such a crime, so no due process could ever make it right to take the life of a pre-born child.
Other minimal requirements would be: pro-God, anti-homosexualism, pro-gun, pro-small government, and pro-American exceptionalism. I could add other qualifications to this list, but we'll just shorten it for the sake of this article.
Who?
Let's just offer a few names that have been brought up as possible Vice Presidential nominees (alphabetically): Tom Corbett, Mitch Daniels, Jim DeMint, Susana Martinez, Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, Rob Portman, Condi Rice, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Rick Snyder, and Alan West. Some of these might or might not fit the requirements I've listed above, but they are a starting list. I'm sure there are others who should be considered. Feel free to add other names.
So, vote now. If the Republican Convention were to suddenly open up, if we suddenly found ourselves rid of Mitt, for whom would you vote to be the nominee of the Republican Party?
see #139
Replace him with Obama. I’m being told here every day that there is no difference between them.
He is what he is.
This is why we must take congress.
We should have a daily global/universal US Congress race thread. A thread to consolodate all polling and senate race data.
We have too many Democrat senators and senatorial candidates running under the radar.
We need to give the impression we own the party since it’s pretty obvious that simply owning it isn’t enough ~
Ummm... we don’t own the Gop... The GOP-e owns it. They would prefer to keep us outside with our noses pressed against the glass.
Now, with that said. we SHOULD own the party. So lets take it over.
Well, as long as we’re smokin some dope here and wishing for things that won’t ever happen, I think I’ll take Cheryl Ladd on her Debut on Charlies Angels (black and white striped bikini on the beach)....hot, hot, hot. Alas, neither will happen - get over it.
The 14th Amendment has nothing whatsoever to do with the natural born citizen clause of the U.S. Constitution, despite all the fevered efforts to twist the law like a super pretzel to perpetrate a fraud. The natural born citizen clause was written for the specific purpose of restricting the Office of the President and Vice President only to those persons who never owed allegiance to any sovereign other than the Citizens of the United States. Rubio and Jindal were born with allegiance to foreign sovereigns, hence they cannot qualify as natural born citizens for the purposes intended by the authors of the Constitution. These improper attempts to re-write the Constitution and the intent of the authors of the Constitution without going through the Amendments of the Constitution are inherently subversive of Constitutional government and the rule of law protecting the Citizens of the United States against usurpment of their individual and collective sovereignty.
The 14th Amendment has nothing whatsoever to do with the natural born citizen clause of the U.S. Constitution, despite all the fevered efforts to twist the law like a super pretzel to perpetrate a fraud. The natural born citizen clause was written for the specific purpose of restricting the Office of the President and Vice President only to those persons who never owed allegiance to any sovereign other than the Citizens of the United States. Rubio and Jindal were born with allegiance to foreign sovereigns, hence they cannot qualify as natural born citizens for the purposes intended by the authors of the Constitution. These improper attempts to re-write the Constitution and the intent of the authors of the Constitution without going through the Amendments of the Constitution are inherently subversive of Constitutional government and the rule of law protecting the Citizens of the United States against usurpment of their individual and collective sovereignty.
see #129
I agree with you about meticulously following house and senate races.
However, you are being way too lenient with your presidential candidate.
His liberal leanings will see him appointing “moderates” to the federal bench: district, appeals, and scotus. His choices of advisors and cabinet will influence is day-to-day decisions and executive orders.
You folks who say you’re going to lean on him and pound him had better be serious, or you actually are foreswearing everything that you say you believe in, but are forced to violate this one solitary time against your will.
Whiskey, I agree with you regarding Jindal, but I disagree regarding Rubio.
Rubio was born years after his parents arrived in the US. His mother was already a naturalized citizen by then, and his father had appeared before a magistrate.
Had they been operating under the immigration law of 1792 they would have been citizens. If we are to use the 18th century understanding of “natural born”, then we should use the 18th century law of naturalization.
So, that leaves you three lifelong Conservative Republicans ~ and you named all three ~ which gives you Kudos and Heartache. We have a bunch here who don't know all that much about the candidates ~ so all I can say is it's worth studying up on every one of them now that we have the internet. A lot of folks running for President are congenital losers (at that job) and yet they serve who only stand and cr*p on real Conservatives (speaking of the candidates of course).
A real Conservative will have impeachment papers prepared by the evening of January 20, 2013.
No need, Sergeant Major, he's already Obama-Lite.
Now...if you could have the conservative of your choice...who would you pick?
I can appreciate the strategy, but it is moot. He KNOWs how deep his support is, just like he KNOWs how deep our disdain for Obama is. Rock and a hard place (for us) it’s called, and providing advertisement fodder to Obama from the Convention isn’t what I’d call smart.
While I don’t particularly like him, I’ll vote for him because I know what Obama is. I’m more concerned down-ticket now. The only thing that will control Romney if he is President is the Congress and Senate.
If we are lucky enough to get both, we need to start arresting some Obama administration people and putting them in prison. While we’re at it, start jailing some judges, too.
I hope Romney and co leave Walker alone. We need him right where he’s at. Future hopeful.
I don’t think Romney will pick a conservative anyway, so I wouldn’t worry about Walker. Plus, Scott criticized Mitt a few weeks ago, and Mittens don’t like that.
Your post is why I think his VP selection will be a moderate female like Whitman.
Anyone in an Idaho phone book...
LOL!
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