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To: unlearner

>> I’m very disappointed at the ignorance here.

You’re not comprehending the issue.

You support the killing of nascent life? That’s a fundamental tenet of so-called Liberal Christianity.

You support the states’ redefinition of marriage; a direct assault against Christianity? Another fundamental tenet of Liberal Christianity.

Liberal Christianity is the form, not the person.


27 posted on 07/15/2012 10:25:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric

“You’re not comprehending the issue.”

I think I do. The author made a clever play on words about salvation but with the intended meaning of preserving the existence of liberal Christendom rather than salvation from sin which is the real issue.

Many of the comments seem to indicate a similar misunderstanding that conservative politics is a prerequisite to being born again. While I do believe Christians who seek God diligently and grow in His Word will see through the deception of leftist politics, I also recognize that believers have different levels of maturity and also can be deceived.

“You support the killing of nascent life? That’s a fundamental tenet of so-called Liberal Christianity.”

I am 100% pro-life. Let me give you some examples of how true believers can be deceived on this issue. I have talked first hand with Christian doctors who delivered babies and prescribed birth control pills to prevent new mothers from conceiving too soon after giving birth. Birth control pills are definitely, scientifically and medically abortifacient. Some Christian doctors do not know this in spite of (or maybe because of) their medical training.

I have heard fertility clinics advertised on Christian radio programs. Anyone who understands life begins at conception should be aware that far more abortions are performed by these businesses than abortion clinics.

Even in the Christian movie called Facing the Giants, the star writer and director gives the reason for his Christian-informed decision to forego fertility treatments as being because they didn’t have enough money. What he should of told the doctor is that he believes life begins at conception and would not be able to violate his conscience by having a test tube baby requiring the formation of multiple embryos which will mostly be discarded, destroyed, or even worse, used for scientific research and then destroyed. This film-maker is definitely a true believer in Christ as far as I can see. He probably considers himself pro-life. Yet his ignorance and being deceived about this led to a serious mistake in an otherwise excellent film.

Bill Clinton’s pastor advised him that life begins when a baby is born and takes its first breath because God breathed into man who then became a living soul. This is not biblically sound, nor does Clinton seem to have any indication of being a believer; but it does show you an argument that could mislead a true believer.

“You support the states’ redefinition of marriage; a direct assault against Christianity? “

I believe what Jesus and the apostles taught, that fornicators (whether sodomites or heterosexual) must repent or will go to hell. I also believe there will be many people who never committed this particular sin who will be in hell for eternity, and some of them will be Republicans.


42 posted on 07/16/2012 8:43:00 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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