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Toledoan, 92, mistakenly shoots officer(OH)
toledoblade.com ^ | 6 July, 2012 | TAYLOR DUNGJEN

Posted on 07/14/2012 5:22:21 AM PDT by marktwain

Toledo police Lt. Randy Pepitone wanted to make sure Annie Huddleston was all right inside her central Toledo home.

Ms. Huddleston thought the man outside prying open her front door lock Thursday was a burglar.

Just as Lieutenant Pepitone was opening the door, Ms. Huddleston, 92, steadied in her hand her late husband's .357 Magnum revolver, and pulled the trigger just once.

The bullet blasted through a wall hitting the 54-year-old lieutenant in the side of the head.

"All of a sudden there was a loud explosion right next to my ear and I went down," the lieutenant said. "I could taste the blood, I saw it dripping on the porch, and then saw the bullet hole."

The lieutenant said he knew the wound was superficial so he crawled across the porch and jumped over the railing where he was treated by firefighters already on scene.

The crew took Lieutenant Pepitone to Toledo Hospital where he was treated and released.

Police Sgt. Joe Heffernan said Ms. Huddleston will not be charged with the shooting because "I don't think it meets all the culpability standards for felonious assault on a police officer."

Sergeant Heffernan said the department confiscated Ms. Huddleston's gun on Thursday morning.

"Lieutenant Pepitone is very lucky," Sergeant Heffernan said. "Another centimeter over and it could have been a very different story."

(Excerpt) Read more at toledoblade.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; home; oh; police
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To: stanne
the title of the article states the caller was mistaken in shooting cop.

Well yeah, she thought she was shooting at an intruder, we've established this. No?

But what caused this.

Where was the communication between dispatch, the cop on scene and the 911 caller?

121 posted on 07/14/2012 3:49:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: stanne

You seem to have an unusually sensitive definition of ‘personal attack’.

Care to share it with the rest of us who are following this thread?


122 posted on 07/14/2012 3:50:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: dragnet2
It begs the question, if there were no signs of break in or forced entry, why would they then attempt to force entry?

Exactly. The answer is, of course, in their minds was, "We're the Police. We can do anything we want. Property rights be damned. What are those anyway?"

123 posted on 07/14/2012 6:11:17 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (As long a hundred of us remain alive we will never on any condition be brought under Obama's rule.)
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To: stanne

Yes.

If SHE called the cops, then they had every right - plus a responsibility - to get in there.

I didn’t realize she’d called them herself.


124 posted on 07/14/2012 6:46:55 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

Ah, logic. Nice to see you again.


125 posted on 07/14/2012 6:49:03 PM PDT by stanne
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To: marktwain

Has anyone said “Holy Toledo!” yet?


126 posted on 07/14/2012 6:54:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Revolting cat!

And humor. Hello.


127 posted on 07/14/2012 7:01:32 PM PDT by stanne
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To: South Hawthorne
A gun in your possesion that belongs to someone else.

It was her husbands, and it is now hers. What don't you understand about that?
128 posted on 07/14/2012 7:22:32 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Exactly.

You bet Sam.

In addition, seems pretty clear, there was a major communication problem between dispatch, the cop on scene and the 911 caller.

When the LEO arrived on scene, he should have immediately informed the dispatcher, who should have told the 911 caller the police were on scene and simple ask her if everything was OK at that point.

I'd bet a nickel, this was all set into motion due to total lack of communication between the responding cop, the dispatcher, and likely the failure to keep the 911 caller on the line until they arrived, and possible the failure of the cop to inform dispatch he arrived on scene.

My bet is they failed to follow their own training and protocol.

129 posted on 07/14/2012 8:16:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Ya see, LE can obtain the telephone number of any residence, if she called 911, they had her number anyway and could have simply called it and ask the occupants to come outside. Or simply knock on the door.

The article says they attempted to contact her, but were unsuccessful. How do you suppose they tried to contact her? Telegram? Write her a letter? Ouija board? Carrier pigeon?

On one hand we have a trained, veteran LEO, following procedures. On the other, we have an addled, 92 year old, who's been imagining people are breaking into her house, and, unable to respond to LE contact, instead decides to squeeze off a blind shot.

I know who I think I'd give the "benefit of the doubt" to. But then again, I'm not a blind cop-hater.

Some of the folks around FR, the cop-hater contingent, remind me of the folks at DU who hate the armed forces irrationally.

130 posted on 07/14/2012 8:23:02 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne

Geeze, no kidding.


131 posted on 07/14/2012 8:36:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: South Hawthorne
The article says they attempted to contact her, but were unsuccessful.

They were already in contact with her. Did she not call 911?

By training 911 operators are trained to keep the caller on the phone until a unit responds, then the unit advises dispatch they are on-scene, and to inform the caller.

This is not complex.

132 posted on 07/14/2012 8:45:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: South Hawthorne
The article says they attempted to contact her, but were unsuccessful.

They were already in contact with her. Did she not call 911?

By training 911 operators are trained to keep the caller on the phone until a unit responds, then the unit advises dispatch they are on-scene, and to inform the caller.

This is not complex.

In addition, according to the article, upon receiving the 911 call the LEO was nearly right there, in the immediate neighborhood, and was there very quickly. Given this fact, it should have been obvious no one was breaking in.

No?

133 posted on 07/14/2012 8:50:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: South Hawthorne
The article says they attempted to contact her, but were unsuccessful.

They were already in contact with her. Did she not call 911?

By training 911 operators are trained to keep the caller on the phone until a unit responds, then the unit advises dispatch they are on-scene, and to inform the caller.

This is not complex.

In addition, according to the article, upon receiving the 911 call the LEO was nearly right there, in the immediate neighborhood, and was there very quickly. Given this fact, it should have been obvious no one was breaking in.

No?

In fact, the LEO was on scene nearly immediately, according to the article. IF the 911 caller put down the phone, it was probably due to the fact the LEO was attempting to force entry, and had failed to notify dispatch he was on scene. At which point she puts down the phone, picks up the gun and shoots through the door.

My hunch based on the article.

134 posted on 07/14/2012 9:04:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Given this fact, it should have been obvious no one was breaking in.

Exactly, by Ms. Huddleston, yet unfortunately, by her own admission, she wasn't able to determine that and responded instead by shooting the assistance she called for.

This is not the kind of person that should be responsible for a gun.

135 posted on 07/14/2012 9:06:16 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne
The article says they attempted to contact her, but were unsuccessful.

They were already in contact with her. Did she not call 911?

By training 911 operators are trained to keep the caller on the phone until a unit responds, then the unit advises dispatch they are on-scene, and to inform the caller.

This is not complex.

In addition, according to the article, upon receiving the 911 call the LEO was nearly right there, in the immediate neighborhood, and was there very quickly. Given this fact, it should have been obvious no one was breaking in.

No?

In fact, the LEO was on scene nearly immediately, according to the article. IF the 911 caller put down the phone, it was probably due to the fact the LEO was attempting to force entry, and had failed to notify dispatch he was on scene. At which point she puts down the phone, picks up the gun and shoots through the door.

My hunch based on the article.

Exactly, by Ms. Huddleston, yet unfortunately, by her own admission, she wasn't able to determine that and responded instead by shooting the assistance she called for.

Excuse me? She called 911, they're supposed to keep her on the phone until a unit arrives. They'd never tell an old lady to go investigate and check out her perimeter. Never.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

Why did 911 not keep her on the phone as they're trained to do until they could inform her a LEO was on scene?

136 posted on 07/14/2012 9:13:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: South Hawthorne
The article says they attempted to contact her, but were unsuccessful.

They were already in contact with her. Did she not call 911?

By training 911 operators are trained to keep the caller on the phone until a unit responds, then the unit advises dispatch they are on-scene, and to inform the caller.

This is not complex.

In addition, according to the article, upon receiving the 911 call the LEO was nearly right there, in the immediate neighborhood, and was there very quickly. Given this fact, it should have been obvious no one was breaking in.

No?

In fact, the LEO was on scene nearly immediately, according to the article. IF the 911 caller put down the phone, it was probably due to the fact the LEO was attempting to force entry, and had failed to notify dispatch he was on scene. At which point she puts down the phone, picks up the gun and shoots through the door.

My hunch based on the article.

Exactly, by Ms. Huddleston, yet unfortunately, by her own admission, she wasn't able to determine that and responded instead by shooting the assistance she called for.

Excuse me? She called 911, they're supposed to keep her on the phone until a unit arrives. They'd never tell an old lady to go investigate and check out her perimeter. Never.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

Why did 911 not keep her on the phone as they're trained to do until they could inform her a LEO was on scene?

BTW, why have they not release the 911 recording?

They'll probably lose it. For good reason.

I'd pay a nickle to hear it.

137 posted on 07/14/2012 9:18:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Why did 911 not keep her on the phone as they're trained to do until they could inform her a LEO was on scene?

Soooo... what do you think happened? The trained 911 oporator for some unknown, undocumented reason, hung up on Ms. Huddleston? OR An addled, 92 year old, with obviously, admittedly, poor judgement, might have laid down or hung up the phone and decided to fire at the first sound she was able to detect?

Seriously, who do you think you'd like to throw in with?

138 posted on 07/14/2012 9:21:42 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne

It’s a rabbit hole.


139 posted on 07/14/2012 9:24:33 PM PDT by stanne
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To: South Hawthorne
The article says they attempted to contact her, but were unsuccessful.

They were already in contact with her. Did she not call 911?

By training 911 operators are trained to keep the caller on the phone until a unit responds, then the unit advises dispatch they are on-scene, and to inform the caller.

This is not complex.

In addition, according to the article, upon receiving the 911 call the LEO was nearly right there, in the immediate neighborhood, and was there very quickly. Given this fact, it should have been obvious no one was breaking in.

No?

In fact, the LEO was on scene nearly immediately, according to the article. IF the 911 caller put down the phone, it was probably due to the fact the LEO was attempting to force entry, and had failed to notify dispatch he was on scene. At which point she puts down the phone, picks up the gun and shoots through the door.

My hunch based on the article.

Exactly, by Ms. Huddleston, yet unfortunately, by her own admission, she wasn't able to determine that and responded instead by shooting the assistance she called for.

Excuse me? She called 911, they're supposed to keep her on the phone until a unit arrives. They'd never tell an old lady to go investigate and check out her perimeter. Never.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

Why did 911 not keep her on the phone as they're trained to do until they could inform her a LEO was on scene?

BTW, why have they not release the 911 recording?

They'll probably lose it. For good reason.

I'd pay a nickle to hear it.

Soooo... what do you think happened?

Uh...You seem a bit slow, but please read the above.

140 posted on 07/14/2012 9:24:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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