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Obamacare: Storm Coming
National Review Online ^ | July 10, 2012 | Marc Siegel

Posted on 07/10/2012 7:33:13 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/10/2012 7:33:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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don’t worry about a doctor shortage ,I’m sure Cuba will train a bunch to fix that


2 posted on 07/10/2012 7:37:54 PM PDT by molson209
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To: molson209

Oh , did you know in the USSR and now Russia ,doctor is woman’s work


3 posted on 07/10/2012 7:39:44 PM PDT by molson209
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4 posted on 07/10/2012 7:40:45 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: molson209
And the new Doctors trained in the USA will go to Med School on the taxpayers. They will be told where they can go to school, what they will specialize in and where they will work when they graduate. The freedom that American doctors have had will be gone. This is not incentive to go to Med School. Good luck to us! We WERE a GREAT country.
5 posted on 07/10/2012 7:42:46 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: neverdem

Dems are calling for an end to ‘fee for service’. They want to replace that with a ‘lump sum per diagnosis’ or in reality making health care providers Federal employees.


6 posted on 07/10/2012 7:45:32 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: neverdem
Since in both cases the symptoms weren’t “textbook,” I would probably have had to appeal to some Kafkaesque committee, wasting precious time; in an extreme instance, this could even cost a patient his or her life.

The 'Kafkaesque committee' of course will NOT be made up of doctors - but clerks who will second guess doctors...

Count on a doctor shortage soon...

7 posted on 07/10/2012 7:46:34 PM PDT by GOPJ (Celebrate the first annual TPIC - "A Day Without Illegal Aliens" July 15th 2012)
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Also expect medical tourism to rise, you could see places like Grenada and Costa Rica be destinations for those who seek the care they need.


8 posted on 07/10/2012 7:49:58 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: originalbuckeye

in France, the doctors average salary $55K/yr


9 posted on 07/10/2012 7:49:58 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: molson209

somewhere I read that we should expect foreign docs will be coming from muslim countries


10 posted on 07/10/2012 7:55:15 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: griswold3

And I’m sure the quality of service reflects this.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 7:56:04 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: griswold3

Wait until they import the doctors in from Guyana, Zimbabwe and Cambodia for ObamaDocs.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 7:56:19 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: neverdem
"Last week, with the Fourth of July looming, I was able to get a quick CT scan to rule out appendicitis for one patient, and an ultrasound of the legs to quickly diagnose a blood clot for another. Tests like these — ordered solely on the basis of my medical intuition – may not be possible in a few years. Since in both cases the symptoms weren’t “textbook,” I would probably have had to appeal to some Kafkaesque committee, wasting precious time; in an extreme instance, this could even cost a patient his or her life."

Apparently the incidence of appendicitis drops with age. I had to spend 24 hr in the ER as a geezer trying to convince the system that I had acute appendicitis.

After going into the ER in the afternoon I was still in the waiting room at midnight and went home for a night's rest.

I started in at the ER again the next morning and spent nearly all day waiting around and trying to convince someone that I had an issue. Finally the head of the ER (it's a teaching hospital) said he would give me a CT scan against the recommendations of his (highly trained) staff. Sure enough, within 15 minutes the surgery team stopped by to inform me that I was going upstairs immediately. Then they asked why I had waited so long! But for the little talk with the old Doc, I'd have never gotten the operation.

Under 0care, I'd have been toast.

13 posted on 07/10/2012 8:10:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Sure, that will clearly work here. No problem getting people to work their tails off to get high science grades to get into medical school, spend four years after college to complete the four years of medical school, then do a residency (thee years for internal medicine), maybe a fellowship (generally another 3 years), taking call and having frequent sleepless nights, to make $55,000/year, when they could make more driving a truck. No problem at all...


14 posted on 07/10/2012 8:12:24 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: neverdem

When you select (or are assigned) your doctor, the real trick will be learning the language of the doctor. Check out the Brits ... real tough to find one that speaks English.


15 posted on 07/10/2012 8:12:30 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: Nowhere Man

“Also expect medical tourism to rise, you could see places like Grenada and Costa Rica be destinations for those who seek the care they need.”

I would think that setting up medical clinics just across the border in Mexico could be a growth industry, if you don’t mind being shot at by the drug cartels ;)


16 posted on 07/10/2012 8:26:32 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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17 posted on 07/10/2012 8:33:57 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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Now you may be thinking, "Those of us shouldering the burden of paying for all of this `free' healthcare are going to get reamed,' you know, "Some animals are more equal that others," but No, No! In their infinite wisdom, your leaders who gave you this gift that will keep on giving, and giving and giving, will sacrifice their own gold-plated health care services and get in line like everybody else, Yes Yes! And then flying monkeys will descend to push you on a scale, jab a thermometer in your gob, deliver injections ....
18 posted on 07/10/2012 9:50:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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19 posted on 07/10/2012 11:01:19 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: tsowellfan

Got a link to that? It’s cut off on by screen.


20 posted on 07/11/2012 12:35:11 AM PDT by Eagles6
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