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On the Precipice Of a New Energy Source?
Journal of Petroleum Technology ^ | July 2012 | Steve Jacobs, COO, and Patrick Leach, CEO, Decision Strategies

Posted on 07/07/2012 7:25:43 AM PDT by Kevmo

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The Cold Fusion Ping List

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Keywords: ColdFusion; LENR; E-CAT; CMNS business, news, extended, tech

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1 posted on 07/07/2012 7:25:45 AM PDT by Kevmo
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The Cold Fusion Ping List

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2 posted on 07/07/2012 7:27:12 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
If a hoax, Obama will expose it by investing gov’t money.
3 posted on 07/07/2012 7:37:16 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: Kevmo

Well,,,,, it was interesting,,, up to this sentence;

“Even wind farms and other emerging alternative energy technologies could not compete economically with LENR.”


4 posted on 07/07/2012 7:45:28 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Kevmo

“In 1989 at the University of Utah, Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann announced they had discovered a cold fusion process that would ultimately result in cheap, limitless energy.”

Hmmm.... as I recall Fleishmann and Pons announced that they had discovered a curious phenomena that should be studied and explored by those with deeper pockets.

They were vilified by the scientific community and ridiculed in the press.

The research only assumed the mantle of respectability when the USN started digging into it. Credit for their findings was awarded to a woman (name escapes me) with no attribution to Fleishmann and Pons.

Screw humanity; they are undeserving of your independent efforts.


5 posted on 07/07/2012 7:47:20 AM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: pingman
Actually, LENR is not seen as a legitimate scientific effort in the Condensed Matter Physics community. NRL is referenced, but LENR advocates at NRL are seen as heretics and that type if research has essentially been banned from NRL for good reason. I am personal friends with those who disproved F&P and moved strongly to keep NRL form embarrassing itself by going full speed in this direction.
6 posted on 07/07/2012 8:07:37 AM PDT by fuente
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To: Kevmo
"There is a probability that LENR may never emerge as a reliable, new energy source."
100%? What's Rossi's latest roll out date? ;-)
7 posted on 07/07/2012 8:09:32 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Kevmo

What Jethro Tull was to Y2K, Kevmo is to crackpot energy schemes....


8 posted on 07/07/2012 8:11:16 AM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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He earned BS degrees in psychology and education

Sounds like great qualifications for an energy expert.

9 posted on 07/07/2012 8:16:41 AM PDT by PAR35
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Jethro Tull the band, or Jethro Tull the plough advocate?


10 posted on 07/07/2012 8:24:31 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1263 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Kevmo

Too bad some of the millions wasted on worthless “green” boondoggles like Solyndra weren’t directed toward this research.


11 posted on 07/07/2012 8:28:49 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Kevmo
1 gram of nickel would be equivalent to about one barrel of oil

Stated another way, assuming a 42 gallon barrel of oil yields 33 gallons of gasoline, one ounce of nickel would yield the energy equivalent of 33 gallons of gasoline. Awesome if true.

12 posted on 07/07/2012 8:35:14 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: PeaRidge

I like that - give ‘em some Federal Guaranteed Loans, and see if they go belly up... IF they don’t, it might be the real thing.
Of course, then Obama will ban it...


13 posted on 07/07/2012 8:39:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: PAR35

Sometimes schooling just gets in the way of ability and creativity, but it does seem like he’s better trained to run scams that to work on energy sources...


14 posted on 07/07/2012 8:45:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Kevmo
Nano-sized particles of nickel, pressurized hydrogen, and a catalyst are heated in a small reactor to the point at which weak interactions between the reactants cause transmutation (i.e., some of the nickel is converted to copper). Considerable excess heat is emitted during this process. Once the reaction becomes self-sustaining, the input power can be reduced significantly and excess heat (up to 650°C) is generated in the range of five to 30 times the input energy.

This is where it starts to become technobabble. There is a lot of stringing together of unrelated concepts to make it sound flashy. First, the weak interaction occurs at the nuclear level and primarly involves radioactive decay modes (e.g., beta decay), so heating at the macroscopic level would not influence it. Then there is the inference of a chain reaction, but no credible mechanism to explain it. Chain reactions in uranium and plutonium fission depend on the release of particles from the nucleus (neutrons) during the fission process. There is nothing here to indicate what the initiating particles are in this postulated process.

Transmutation of nickel to copper involves the gain of a proton, either by bombardment with protons or conversion of a neutron into a proton. You can get the latter by neutron bombardment of nickel to create a neutron-rich form of nickel, which will beta decay to copper, but there is no mention of this process and how you would do it (i.e., neutron source).

15 posted on 07/07/2012 8:54:58 AM PDT by chimera
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To: PAR35

My thoughts to a tee. A person struggling to be either relevant or credible.

Nagel, maybe. Leach Probably not.

I’ll go with Thorium and LiFTR technology for $200.

I wouldn’t hold my breath on either of these for transportation fuel as in cars, trucks, tractors, airplanes etc.


16 posted on 07/07/2012 8:56:45 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: fuente

This stuff would be wonderful if true, but the likelihood of it turning out to be a useful source of energy is lower than the likelihood that it not a scam, and that is lower than the likelihood of 2 chemists with no nuclear physics training finding a whole new nuclear effect at very low energies that is real - and that probability is pretty damn low.


17 posted on 07/07/2012 9:04:19 AM PDT by expat2
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To: layman
one ounce of nickel would yield the energy equivalent of 33 gallons of gasoline.

I made a mistake .... make that 924 gallons of gasoline.

18 posted on 07/07/2012 9:24:43 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: expat2

Yup! I couldn’t agree more. Now if someone wanted to talk subcritical thorium reactors or something else under consideration, I would be all ears and would happily engage in witty conversation. It is amazing that scientists continue to stray from the scientific method and enter into the world of alchemy in pursuit of funding.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 10:36:29 AM PDT by fuente
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To: expat2

Yup! I couldn’t agree more. Now if someone wanted to talk subcritical thorium reactors or something else under consideration, I would be all ears and would happily engage in witty conversation. It is amazing that scientists continue to stray from the scientific method and enter into the world of alchemy in pursuit of funding.


20 posted on 07/07/2012 10:36:40 AM PDT by fuente
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