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To: packrat35

I am not among the Californians who thing this communist controlled cesspool of liberal insanity can be saved.

California is a one party Democrat state. There are 4 registered Democrat voters for every 3 GOP registered voters.

California is the ONLY state in the USA that elected more Democrats during Obama’s 2010 blood bath. Every other state picked up GOP House members and Governors. NOT California. We elected three of the most mentally impaired San Francisco bay area politicians to state wide office — San Francisco attorney general Kamila Harris to State attorney general, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome to Lt. Governor, and that starry eyed utopian crack-pot, Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown to Governor.

Do you need any more evidence that we are doomed.

And this before you consider that California has 1/3 of all of the welfare cases in the USA. The other 49 US states combined only have double the number of welfare recipients that California has alone.

This before you consider that California has about 20% of all of the illegal immigrants in the nation.

We are completely doomed.

Some here keep posting to stay and fight for the fine weather and sandy beaches. Sorry, but I’m not into Auschwitz on the beach. I’ll take freedom in a barren desert before I’ll take tyranny on a sandy beach.

No, the day I retire, I am off to fight for a state at risk of being over-run by liberals, but can still be saved with an influx of conservatives.


47 posted on 07/06/2012 9:38:30 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Personally, I think we have already passed the point of recovery for the whole US. A breakup is probably going to happen. I expect anywhere from 3-5 new countries from once was the US.

I pray it isn’t bloody but the infection of Washington and the liberal horde will not be sated. They want total control and servitude and some of us will not go for that. Most of New England, Illinois, and California are goners for sure.

The continual ignoring of the debt bomb will take us all out and then things will get really interesting... As you have already stated, California is leading the way for us...off a cliff.


53 posted on 07/06/2012 10:55:13 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
California has been done for a long time. They say that the passage of this high speed rail will reduce the chance that Jerry Brown's tax increase will pass (15% state tax) this November, but I feel that any tax increase is certain because most of the people here don't pay any taxes or work for the government.

The future of the central valley is grim. Fresno is looking more and more like LA every day with bums and gang member hanging out on streets.The police are overwhelmed. I am suspicious that state buses criminal and section 8 recipients to the central valley because there is more room and the cost of living is less. There are no jobs here. The largest employer is the Hospital systems and the state government. Agriculture is being crushed by environmental regulation and government restriction of water, both a result of liberal policy. The high speed rail will rip though thousands of acres of productive farm land. Real estate is destroyed. The state legislature passed a law to allow people to sue the banks resulting in delaying foreclosure so that people will stay in the foreclosed house for years without payment or eviction. The banks will stop loans and no one will be able to buy your house. Utilities are going up both because of failing infrastructure, buying power outside the state and free services for the poor. Public schools are frightening and you would never send your kids unless you had no choice. They have so many restrictions on guns and lead bullets. The people here of Mexican decent have family in Mexico and they want no restrictions on the border.Illegals have brought disease, corruption, crime, and poverty. The pandering liberal legislature is willing to make this a sanctuary state. If you have any net worth the state will extract it because it is all about redistribution of wealth.

The paradigm here is so toxic that California should be jettisoned from the union. It would be like cutting off a gangrenous limb. Personally I am trying to leave but I will take a huge financial loss.

54 posted on 07/06/2012 11:55:35 PM PDT by pterional
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