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Remember Fast and Furious’s Mexican Victims
National Review Online ^ | July 6, 2012 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 07/06/2012 12:18:54 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Firearms do not talk.

We do not know how many Americans were murdered with these weapons.

In fact, we know very little except when the firearms are dropped at crime scenes.

If the firearm is not dropped and re-used for another murder, we will never know.

Fast & Furious is responsible for far more than 2 American agents and 300 Mexicans......it is implicated in EVERY death near the border, Mexican, American or other!


21 posted on 07/06/2012 1:55:12 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: neverdem

Out of curiosity I just called senator Harry Reid’s office.

I had only one simple question, requiring only a “Yes” or “No” answer.

My question to his him (his staff, I don’t rate his coming to the phone) was, “Does a U.N. treaty have the power to override the U.S. Constitution?”

The response?
“The senator has not taken a position on that yet”!

It is considered bad form to call him if he is not your senator, HOWEVER, it is acceptable to contact him on an issue if you address your comment to him as senate majority leader!

Senator Harry Reid (D) NV.
Web site: http://reid.senate.gov
Mail: United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510-2803
Ph. (202) 224-3542, Fax (202) 224-7327


22 posted on 07/06/2012 2:07:31 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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23 posted on 07/06/2012 2:38:48 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

As far as the F&F plan, dead Mexicans were acceptable to the obozo, Eric Holder, Hitlery Clinton, Janet Nepalitano, Dicky Durbin, Chucky Shummer, Dianne Feinstein as well as others in the FBI and BATFE for their goal of disarming Americans. Justice delayed is justice denied and these people should all be charged with murder in the first, conspiracy to commit murder, withholding evidence, lying under oath, misappropriation of government funds etc...... because that is exactly what happened and it is undeniable that they knew in the planning phase of F&F that Mexicans were going to be murdered with those weapons.


24 posted on 07/06/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: neverdem

I’ve frankly been shocked at the way the hundreds of Mexican victims of F & F have been largely ignored by both rightand especially the left. Had Bush been President during this period, all we’d be hearing about is the “Bush-whacking” of Mexicans, day and night.


25 posted on 07/06/2012 3:31:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: -------Obama DID lie!)
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26 posted on 07/06/2012 4:11:40 PM PDT by LucyT
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I'm just not buying the supposed angst from the Mexican government and their supposed ignorance of the program.
It's just too much to believe that they didn't know what was fixing to go down.

Watch this video and listen to what he says at the 4:30 mark.

Here is the text...April 16, 2009 JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE WITH PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA AND PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERÓN OF MEXICO

Of interest...

And that is the case of Mexico. If we actually comply with the U.S. law -- or rather if everybody complies with the U.S. law that prohibits the sale of these weapons and their export to Mexico, we can move a great deal forward.
President Obama has made recent decisions in the last few weeks, and we value them and appreciate them -- for example, to reinforce the operational capability of U.S. border agencies in order to comply with this legislation and with other laws, in order to review the flows of entry not only into the United States, but also the outgoing flows, outgoing from the U.S., to make sure that there is no illicit money, in strict compliance with United States legislation. I think these are very important steps.
4:30 mark... One more thing -- one more thing I forgot to mention. One other thing we can do is to track the weapons that we have in Mexico. If we manage to detect weapons sold illegally in the United States in violation of this law on the control of weapons exports, or if, in the United States, they can have -- probably move forward on a good registry of armament or on the prohibition of certain massive sales of weapons, for example, to a hunter or to a common citizen -- we know that these people do not usually buy hundreds of rifles or assault weapons or grenades -- if we can move forward in those areas, I do believe that security both of the United States and Mexico will improve because those weapons are pointing against Mexican people and Mexican officials today. How could weapons be tracked in Mexico if there were no tracking programs in place or enacted?

And just how many "decisions" was he told about and exactly what were all of these decisions?

27 posted on 07/06/2012 4:54:44 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Lurker

“It’s time for one of the Mexican Presidential candidates to demand the extradition of Eric Holder as an accessory to the murders of hundreds of Mexican citizens.”

No, we need to volunteer him!


28 posted on 07/06/2012 5:50:59 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

There have been numerous threads here detailing anywhere from 12 to twenty-four Americans killed by illegals everyday. FAIR.org is another place you can look.


29 posted on 07/06/2012 9:20:39 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: silverleaf
The overwhelming sentiment here is anti-illegal immigrant Mexican and you're chastising me? The most corrupted institution is Mexico is the police. For four hundred years Mexico has been a kleptocracy and not a society based on the rule of law. I'm sorry but I don't see Mexicans weeping for the family members of dead Americans killed by their countrymen.
30 posted on 07/06/2012 9:25:27 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Americans killed by drunk-driving Mexicans doesn’t qualify as murder, as to my understanding.


31 posted on 07/06/2012 9:27:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Hey “Bub’’, here. Go to ask.com and type in this question: How many Americans are killed everyday by illegal aliens?’’ Ok chum? Do that.


32 posted on 07/06/2012 9:40:39 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

LOL!! Well you know you’re heading for the old folks farm when you post to yourself, duh!!. Seriously though BUbba, I’d suggest to do that though.


33 posted on 07/06/2012 9:43:46 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: neverdem

I don’t know about reparations but I think we owe the victims and the citizens of both the U.S. and Mexico some serious criminal convictions starting at the top. The ones with the most authority should be the ones who do the most time. Or hang.


34 posted on 07/07/2012 8:17:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: jmacusa

When you argue with yourself do you feel good when you win the argument or mad that you lost it? I always have trouble with that. ;^P


35 posted on 07/07/2012 8:23:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: silverleaf

Well said.


36 posted on 07/07/2012 8:48:29 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Joe Brower

It starts at the top!!


37 posted on 07/07/2012 10:17:43 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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