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1 posted on 07/04/2012 6:54:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Read the rest of the Salon article here:

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/03/roberts_wrote_both_obamacare_opinions/

It makes perfect sense - or, at least it explains what many legal experts were commenting on at the time. The dissent didn’t mention Roberts’ decision for the first three quarters of the ruling - an unprecedented occurrence.


2 posted on 07/04/2012 6:55:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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Congress can control the SCOTUS, if it has the will. The bolded part at the end is perhaps the least appreciated sentence in the entire Constitution.

U.S. Constitution, Article 3 Section 2:

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State,--between Citizens of different States,--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

"...with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

Enough Tea Party Patriots could lead a new Congress, and put the SCOTUS back into its box. The USA was never intended to become a tyranny of five judges. It's in the Constitution: The Congress is superior to the SCOTUS. There are NOT "three co-equal branches" as most believe.

Congress could tell the SC: "tax policy is not under your purview. Have a nice day. Next case!"

Just because a tactic has not been attempted before, doesn't mean it can't be done. Mark Levin has talked about this before, and he's hinting at it now, post Roberts.

3 posted on 07/04/2012 7:00:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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There is no doubt at all that Scalia and Kenned wrote major sections of their dissent and did a significant portion of the work after Roberts betrayed America. Roberts may have helped with the initial reasoning when he was on the side of the Constitution, but it’s very obviously Scalia who gave certain sections their sharp edge and Kennedy who polished others. Anyone who can read “a few respectful responses to JUSTICE GINSBURG’s dissent . . . saying that there is really no difference between action and inaction . . . a proposition that has never commended itself to the law nor to common sense” and not (1) laugh, and (2) recognize Scalia, has never read Scalia before.


4 posted on 07/04/2012 7:00:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is schizophrenia a symptom of advanced epilepsy?
6 posted on 07/04/2012 7:03:25 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Roberts` betrayal of the Constitution .. a sellout for 30 pieces of silver represented as media praise... will stand as one of the greatest acts of self-serving treachery ever perpetrated against this nation.

Clarence Thomas refuses to read media reports on cases in the runup to USSC rulings because he doesn`t want public opinion to taint his Constitutional interpretation. Roberts should`ve shown that same level of wisdom.

I can`t blame Bush for this one.. at the time of his nomination, Roberts had nearly firewall credentials as a conservative jurist. He couldn`t have picked a worse time to morph into a David Souter clone.


7 posted on 07/04/2012 7:07:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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He wanted to make sure the payoff was sufficient before coming down on obama’s side


11 posted on 07/04/2012 7:20:26 AM PDT by jesseam
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He was for it before he was against it and he was against it before he was for it and he was undecided before he was undecided.

I think he forgot his schizophrenia medication.


19 posted on 07/04/2012 8:35:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Has this ever happened before? A Justice writing both sides?

The fact that this ruling...probably the most significant in a few generations...was such a bumblef___. Roberts destroyed his legacy with his disaster.


20 posted on 07/04/2012 8:51:52 AM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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A perspective that arrive via email:

As a conservative I feel great about the Supreme Court decision, especially the mental acuity of Justice Roberts! Mr. Bolen's analysis is right on the mark. Weep no more my friends! Please read on!

Richard Bolen The Bolen Law Firm 600 Columbia Avenue, Suite 7 Lexington, SC 29072 (803) 951-2230 (803) 951-2328 (fax) @RichBolen -Twitter June 28, 2012 Lexington, South Carolina

To all my friends, particularly those conservatives who are despondent over the searing betrayal by Chief Justice John Roberts and the pending demise of our beloved country, I offer this perspective to convey some profound hope and evidence of the Almighty’s hand in the affairs of men in relation to the Supreme Court’s decision on Obamacare.

I initially thought we had cause for despondency when I only heard the results of the decision and not the reason or the make-up of the sides. I have now read a large portion of the decision and I believe that it was precisely the result that Scalia, Alito, Thomas, Roberts and even Kennedy wanted and not a defeat for conservatism or the rule of law. I believe the conservatives on the court have run circles around the liberals and demonstrated that the libs are patently unqualified to be on the Supreme Court. Let me explain.

First let me assure you that John Roberts is a conservative and he is not dumb, mentally unstable, diabolical, a turncoat, a Souter or even just trying to be too nice. He is a genius along with the members of the Court in the dissent. The more of the decision I read the more remarkable it became. It is not obvious and it requires a passable understanding of Constitutional law but if it is explained anyone can see the beauty of it.

The decision was going to be a 5-4 decision no matter what, so the allegation that the decision was a partisan political decision was going to be made by the losing side and their supporters. If the bill was struck down completely with Roberts on the other side there would have been a national and media backlash against conservatives and probably strong motivation for Obama supporters to come out and vote in November. With today’s decision that dynamic is reversed and there is a groundswell of support for Romney and Republicans, even for people who were formerly lukewarm toward Romney before today, additionally Romney raised more than 3 million dollars today.

Next, merely striking the law without the support of Democrats and libs would have left the fight over the commerce clause and the “necessary and proper “ clause and the federal government’s role in general festering and heading the wrong way as it has since 1942. As a result of the decision the libs are saying great things about Roberts; how wise, fair and reasonable he is. They would never have said that without this decision even after the Arizona immigration decision on Monday. In the future when Roberts rules conservatively it will be harder for the left and the media to complain about the Robert’s Court’s fairness. That’s why he as Chief Justice went to the other side for this decision not Scalia, Alito, Thomas or Kennedy, all of whom I believe would have been willing to do it.

Next let’s look at the decision itself. Thankfully Roberts got to write it as Chief Justice and it is a masterpiece. (As I write this the libs don’t even know what has happened they just think Roberts is great and that they won and we are all going to have free, unlimited healthcare services and we are all going to live happily ever after.) He first emphatically states that Obamacare is unconstitutional under the Commerce Clause saying you cannot make people buy stuff. Then he emphatically states that it is unconstitutional under the “necessary and proper” clause which only applies to “enumerated powers” in the US Constitution. Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan all went along with these statements. They never would have gone along with that sentiment if that was the basis for striking the law in total. This is huge because this means that the Court ruled 9-0 that Obamacare was unconstitutional under the Commerce clause which was Obama’s whole defense of the bill. They also ruled 9-0 on the “necessary and proper” clause. Even better both of these rulings were unnecessary to the decision so it is gravy that we got the libs to concede this and it will make it easier to pare away at both theories in the future, which we must do. Well done.

Roberts, through very tortured reasoning, goes on to find that the taxing law provides the Constitutionality for the law. Virtually everyone agrees that the Federal government has the power to do this as it does with the mortgage deduction for federal income taxes. This too is huge because Obama assiduously avoided using the term “tax” and now he has to admit this law is a tax and it is on everyone even the poor. That will hurt him hugely in the polls and will help Romney. More importantly though is the fact that this makes this a budgetary issue that can be voted on in the Senate by a mere majority instead of 60 votes needed to stop a filibuster. That means that if the Republicans can gain a majority in the Senate, it can vote to repeal Obamacare in total.

Finally the Court voted 7-2 to strike down the punitive rules that take away money from states that do not expand Medicare as required in Obamacare. This too is huge because we got Kagan and Breyer to join this decision and it can easily be applied to many other cases of extortion the Federal government uses to force states to do things they don’t want to. This is also amazing because Obamacare has no severability clause so by striking the Medicaid mandate portion as unconstitutional the whole bill should have been struck. If that happened none of these other benefits would have been accomplished. I haven’t read far enough to know how he did it but I am sure it is brilliant.

So to recap the Roberts court through a brilliant tactical maneuver has: strengthened the limitations of the commerce clause and the necessary and proper clause by a unanimous decision, made Obama raise taxes on the poor and middle classes, converted Obamacare into a tax program repealable with 51 votes in the Senate, enhanced Romney’s and Republican’s fundraising and likelihood of being elected in November, weakened federal extortion and got the left to love Roberts and sing his praises all without anyone even noticing. Even Obama is now espousing the rule of law just 2 weeks after violating it with his deportation executive order.

That is why I have decided this was a genius decision and that I did in fact get a great birthday present today not to mention U. S. Attorney General Eric Holder being held in contempt. What a day!

21 posted on 07/04/2012 9:08:41 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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Some people are saying that when everyone else is playing checkers, Roberts is playing chess. I say, in this case, he was playing “Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock”. (Tip-o-the-hat to “Big Bang Theory”.) His anti-seizure meds must be out of balance.


26 posted on 07/04/2012 9:32:17 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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