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Live Free -- And Uninsured
Townhall.com ^ | July 4, 2012 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 07/04/2012 6:27:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

In the wake of the Supreme Court ruling upholding the Affordable Care Act (aka "Obamacare"), NPR's "Talk of the Nation" held a seminar of sorts at the Aspen Institute's legendarily pretentious Ideas Festival. Someone in the audience asked NPR health policy correspondent Julie Rovner this question: "Today's decision is a positive decision for the estimated 50 million uninsured Americans. Who are the losers today?"

Rovner seemed to struggle to find losers. She came up with insurance companies that want the so-called individual mandate -- now a punitive tax, according to the Supreme Court -- to be much more punitive. After thinking through her answer, she later added that another group of losers might be the citizens of states whose governors opt to not participate in the law's expansion of Medicaid.

So, Obamacare creates no losers except where it fails to tax people sufficiently and where GOP governors fail to accept the wisdom of the law. In short, the only thing wrong with Obamacare is that it isn't even more punitive, more mandatory and more intrusive.

It is an interesting perspective given that this is arguably the most controversial law in our lifetimes. It nearly sparked a constitutional crisis, largely caused the Democrats to lose their majority in the House and, despite herculean efforts by the president to "sell" the law (more than 50 speeches, formal statements and national addresses on it during his first year), it has never been popular with most Americans. And yet, according to Rovner, the law creates only winners if properly implemented. Why on earth are opponents so stupid?

For the record, there are losers under Obamacare. Here's a short list: (1) taxpayers who will carry the load of what the Congressional Budget Office says will be a $2 trillion price tag when the law is fully implemented; (2) the millions of workers the CBO says will be pushed off their current insurance coverage, even though the president insists you can keep your existing insurance if you like it; (3) innumerable and unknowable numbers of sick people who will not be screened for various diseases because some bureaucrats' protocol says it's too expensive; (4) Roman Catholic and other religious institutions forced to violate their values; (5) a few million so-called freeloaders who don't want to buy health insurance for perfectly rational reasons.

Obamacare defenders have responses to these objections, and critics have responses to those responses. Still: Serious people do believe that the law creates -- or just might create -- losers, a fact Rovner might have mentioned.

I don't mean to pick on Rovner. Her views on Obamacare don't strike me as exceptional so much as typical -- typical of a liberal Washington establishment that still seems incapable of grasping what the fuss is about.

Hence the Beltway fantasy that Obamacare's unpopularity reflects nothing more than a sales problem. Indeed, the new mantra is that the Supreme Court's decision has provided the White House a golden opportunity to "sell" a law that has been on the books for two years already.

Only a third of Americans fully supported the law when it was signed, according to a New York Times/CBS News poll, and today that number stands essentially unchanged. In fairness, a fifth of the law's opponents are left-wing voters who would prefer a single-payer system that doesn't involve incestuous collusion between government and big business. I don't support socialized medicine, but I can respect this sort of principled objection.

But why is the only legitimate opposition to the law one that creates "losers" in some actuarial or accounting sense? Even if I thought we could afford a vast new entitlement, I'd still be opposed to Obamacare.

Whether it's called a tax or a mandate, the federal government has never opted to compel citizens to purchase something as a condition of breathing while American. Obamacare represents a major advance for the old FDR vision of turning sovereign citizens into clients of the state. It empowers an army of Bloombergs to do what they think is for your own good and to redefine your rights as mere perks of the system.

I admit I have an old-fashioned conception of what our country is supposed to be about, which is why people like me are losers under Obamacare too.


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1 posted on 07/04/2012 6:27:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Four states have opted out, another dozen about to.

By the time the elections occur I believe more than half of the 50 states will opt out of Obamataxcare.

So now the “taxes” on those remaining pro-care states will now be doubled at the very least if not multiplied in a gross fraction.

So instead of a first year tax fine of $850 its now $17,000 to make up for 20 states opting out.


2 posted on 07/04/2012 6:34:07 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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To: Kaslin

Of course, many naive libs see this chiefly as previously uninsured people finally being able to get medical care. Many Euros believed that poor people in the U.S. without insurance received absolutely no medical care. I had to tell my Brit in-laws how false that story was. When the Americans who shouted thanks to Obama after the thing was declared constitutional see their insurance rates go up appreciably or they lose their insurance, they might be singing a different tune.


3 posted on 07/04/2012 6:44:34 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Eye of Unk
“So now the “taxes” on those remaining pro-care states will now be doubled at the very least if not multiplied in a gross fraction.”
The States that opt out can only opt out of receiving the money from the taxes. The taxes will still be levied against the individual taxpayers, even though their State doesn't participate.
The whole law is fabricated to destroy the healthcare system forcing everyone to turn to FedGuv (tm) “the savior”.
4 posted on 07/04/2012 6:44:39 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

If the Feds take the “fair share” through electronic means the states can return that amount as dividends to the people.

Sarah Palin did a similar process from oil tax revenues in Alaska years ago, not only was it an excellent PFD year where each person had a check around $2k they received an additional check to counter rising fuel costs.

All the right reasons to get Sarah Palin behind the efforts to counter this invasive terminal disease called the Obamataxcare.

For every dollar the Feds take away from people in opted out states the individuals in that state can get a refund check late in the year. The power and control is in the hands of the governors.


5 posted on 07/04/2012 6:52:44 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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To: Kaslin
This is EXACTLY how Lefties "think": "If I steal some money and give you some of it, why would you object to my stealing? You are benefiting from it. Why would you object to something that is in your own best interests?"

They basically have no moral compass, so their only measuring stick is what they get out of something.

6 posted on 07/04/2012 8:33:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Eye of Unk
Sarah Palin did a similar process from oil tax revenues in Alaska years ago, not only was it an excellent PFD year where each person had a check around $2k they received an additional check to counter rising fuel costs.

The losers are the people who use the products from the over-taxed oil companies. When is redistribution of wealth OK?
7 posted on 07/04/2012 8:40:35 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Eye of Unk

That’s an excellent idea. Here’s an easy way to work it: a state tax credit for any taxes paid for robertscare.


8 posted on 07/04/2012 9:00:34 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( We're all Texians now.)
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To: Kaslin
I admit I have an old-fashioned conception of what our country is supposed to be about, which is why people like me are losers under Obamacare too.

You're not alone, Jonah. This is how the entire silent majority feels.

9 posted on 07/04/2012 9:01:12 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Kaslin

I have a 4th of July question. How much nationwide non-compliance
would it take to affect a change in healthcare policy?


10 posted on 07/04/2012 10:04:13 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: Kaslin

“(5) a few million so-called freeloaders who don’t want to buy health insurance for perfectly rational reasons. “

YOUNG PEOPLE.

Healthy young people paying way more than their share for something they hardly need.

And they’re the ones the media has decieved into wanting this... What a vile, hateful media we have.


11 posted on 07/04/2012 10:17:03 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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