When Obama in essence attacked religious beliefs by using Obamacare as his weapon.
Now I don't believe after this experience that Bishops would contact Roberts and ask him to sell America out, but if they did then they just sold out Catholicism.
This speculation makes no sense at all to me.
No. Pressure from the Obama Chicago machine is far, far more likely to be the cause of his inexplicable switch. Remember what team Obama did to Senator Jack Ryan in 2004. I suspect something similar here.
I doubt this very much, for the simple reason that while many clergy originally backed ObamaCare the hierarchy now knows they will be footing the bill for it and any additional money siphoned from its flock by the government will result in lower revenue for the churches.
As far as the Vatican is concerned, while it generally promotes a greater good the Church itself is adamantly anti-socialist, with popes publicly writing against it. It is a violation of private property rights, and seen as a sort of theft of wages.
With all due respect...you must be joking.
So all of the lawsuits filed by the Church over the abortion/contraception/sterilization violation of conscience mandates are just cover?
Rejected, no thanks.
no.
Nancy Pelosi is a cradle Catholic too. I don’t believe that Roberts was influenced by the Catholic hierarchy.
Hey, all I’m saying is Albino Assassin Monks can be pretty persuasive...
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the Catholic church is at the end of a two week Novena called “Forthnight for Freedom”- its basically asking people to pray to end everything obama has done as far as obamacare (contraceptive laws and forced abortion in Catholic hospitals), forcing churches to perform gay marriage, ect...
the past two weeks the homily’s at mass have been as political as i’ve ever seen in the Catholic church and I never miss a mass (48YO) and went to Catholic school all my life..in my uber liberal town in NY they basically said, without saying, the way to change this all is vote obama out in November...my sister in law, who goes to a Catholic church in Orlando, says the people in church have freely and openly state obama must be voted out and they talk to the kids about what liberty and freedom really mean...
the answer to your question in No....
I don’t think this is as complicated as some would like to make it.
Roberts knew “his” court was in danger of being viewed as entirely politicized and decided to do something about it by stretching the guiding principle of deference to the legislature that goes something like (IIRC) “if a law can reasonably be construed as constitutional it should be..etc” in order to cross the line.
The idea that he’s some sort of evil political genius who turned to the dark side with a view to the elections.. I mean, c’mon, I know Emperor Palpatine wore a dark robe too, but these divinations of the man’s inner motivations are getting a bit eccentric.
Duh, the Catholic Bishops, Ave Mria University, Franciscan University just for starters have come out against this months ago.
The Catholic Church would lobby the Supreme Court?
Could you come up with a precedent for such an accusation other than sheer paranoia and bigotry?
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Red Herring. I won’t guess the exact offer, but I am positive he was given an offer he couldn’t refuse. Simple as that. I would also bet it was about something that he will not ever be able to reveal, even on his death-bed.
I am also positive the same happened to Palin.
Occam’s Razor.
The power and money behind the crushing of America is for all practical purposes...unlimited. Makes the Mafia look like cub scouts.
Or..He is playing tripple 3-D, hyper-space, time-travel chess cause he is so smart. Yea...right...
Um...no. Roberts is a big boy and thinks for himself. He simply believes the federal government can do what they want. See Arizona immigration law as well.
I’ve been thinking the only tax that Roberts could be thinking of would be a church tax (though certainly not Roman Catholic), like they had in old Europe. This is the new Church of the Secular Elites. The mandate tax is forced compassion, support of same sex marriage is required, recognition of the sainthood of BO is enjoined, the beatification of Michelle, blessed be her name, is to be revered. Since most of the people who are opting out of buying health insurance currently (the “free loaders”—they only pay the Medicare payroll tax currently, which is probably only equivalent to what they spend on entertainment each month) are making a pretty good bet they won’t need health care in the next year, then the main perceived motivation for needing it is to bear the burden of others. If you happen to be a ZPGer who says,”Why don’t they all just die, and millions of others like them?” Well then, you need to be assessed this tax. The death panels will take care of your legitimate concerns anyway. Clearly, the next component of this compassion tax to be enacted is mandated life insurance, you pipsqueak who are not standing up to the responsibilities of your family should you die in an untimely way ( here, we can even invoke the founders, because didn’t Ben Franklin himself say, “nothing is sure but death and taxes.” Notice he didn’t say “sickness,” for which you would need the already mandated health insurance.) And none of that $1 million payout cheap stuff either. Your society needs at least $3 million per head to pay off the taxes you won’t be paying due to your early check-out (bug -out?); we need to pay those pensions to public employee early retirees who have self-sacrificed more by the time they’re fifty than you will if you work until you’re 85. Just call them compassion taxes.
Makes more sense than some of the things I’ve read.
Second, while the Catholic Church has generally favored some type of health care reform, the US Bishops were opposed to Obamacare even before it was passed.
He is not closeted.