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Pelosi: ObamaCare’s not a tax, it’s a ta-penalty (video)
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/02/pelosi-obamacares-not-a-tax-its-a-ta-penalty/ ^

Posted on 07/02/2012 8:09:49 AM PDT by chessplayer

Democrats had a little trouble with their messaging yesterday in the wake of what should have been a big victory for them last week at the Supreme Court. Instead, the legal victory has given way to a huge political headache, and perhaps even a linguistic headache as well. How can Democrats argue that ObamaCare isn’t a huge tax when the Supreme Court decision that upheld it clearly states that it’s only constitutional as a huge tax? Nancy Pelosi tried arguing that it’s not a tax but a penalty when challenged by David Gregory on Meet the Press, but even she couldn’t spit that one out cleanly:

“It’s a ta—; it’s a penalty for free riders,” Pelosi said, nearly uttering the dreaded T-word before cutting herself off.

Actually, Pelosi slips twice in this clip. The first time comes when she asks Gregory, “Well, who is the ta — who is the penalty on?” Obviously, Pelosi hasn’t grown comfortable with the official Democratic nomenclature


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1 posted on 07/02/2012 8:09:52 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Poor Peloopsi, the bill is passed and she still does not know what is in it.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 8:12:49 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: chessplayer

A ta-ta penalty?


3 posted on 07/02/2012 8:14:08 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: chessplayer

Apparently the queen of you have to pass it to know what is in it still does not know what is in it after passage.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 8:14:37 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: chessplayer

Hey Polousy...crawl back into your cell, witch.
IF it’s a penalty, it fall under the commerce clause and is unconstitutional. It’s the largest tax increase in history and YOU are the cause of it. Take a hike.


5 posted on 07/02/2012 8:17:11 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: chessplayer

6 posted on 07/02/2012 8:17:26 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: chessplayer

Yeah. Go ahead. Laugh at the RATS. But you know why this does NOT matter?????? Because Eric Fehrnstrum (Senior Romney advisory), under SPECIFIC questioning, came out this morning and said SPECIFICALLY that . . . he agreed. It is NOT a tax.

So there you have Conservatives ... we let the GOP elite force nominate a moron.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 8:30:04 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: chessplayer
Meanwhile.....

That F'n MORON (or his top adviser which is the same thing) Mittens keeps making it more difficult to defend (though I am still NOT willing to sit back and allows that FASCIST, Neo-Commie, Islamic-Jihadist-SUPPORTING, POS, Dear Leader to be reelected...yet!)....

....as if he wants to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory,"....

....by proclaiming (and thus undercutting the Republicans who are going after B. Hussein Obama) that the fee is a "penalty" and not a tax.

CAN'T MITT AND HIS ADVISERS SIMPLY KEEP THEIR PIE HOLES CLOSED? PLEASE?

8 posted on 07/02/2012 8:32:10 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: chessplayer

What other “free-riders” might expect to get a penalty?


9 posted on 07/02/2012 8:36:23 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: 11th Commandment

“Poor Peloopsi, the bill is passed and she still does not know what is in it.”

LOLOLOL - great line!


10 posted on 07/02/2012 8:37:41 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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The “penalty” is collected by the IRS and goes to the US Treasury. What would be different if it were a tax?


11 posted on 07/02/2012 8:41:54 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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Remember hearing about dhimmitude - the tax that non-muslims have to pay to muslims? Well, Obamacare gives all non-muslims Obamitude.


12 posted on 07/02/2012 9:08:02 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Get back to us when Romney says it, not Politico or an adviser. Or Politico spinning what an adviser said.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 9:08:02 AM PDT by chessplayer
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If it isn’t a tax, why will the IRS be wthholding and collecting a Supreme tax from individuals without health insurance?!

Individual Mandate Excise Tax(Jan 2014): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following

1 Adult

2 Adults

3+ Adults

2014

1% AGI/$95

1% AGI/$190

1% AGI/$285

2015

2% AGI/$325

2% AGI/$650

2% AGI/$975

2016 +

2.5% AGI/$695

2.5% AGI/$1390

2.5% AGI/$2085

Exemptions for religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes, and hardship cases (determined by HHS)

The IR$ has one basic function to collect taxes forced on us by progressives.

The individual Supreme tax mandate will not be an option for those without a health plan. They will be paying a surtax based on yearly income, and if anyone thinks that the Obozo Supreme IRS will wait until the end of the year to collect these new mandated Supreme Taxes. They should check how the Obozo Supreme IRS handles FICA taxes. FICA taxes are deducted from each paycheck for each pay period. Those who are independent contractors have to pay quarterly along with their regular income taxes.

We should not be suprised when the legislatures in the deep blue states like Californicator land vote for an automatic 10-15% tax of the Supreme Tax to pay for their expenses. Then watch the counties and cities in those deep blue states impose their own % of the Supreme Tax.


14 posted on 07/02/2012 9:35:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: chessplayer

Is it me, or does anyone else think it strange that the Democrats have chosen to use the term “free-riders” as a talking point. Seriously, the Democratic Party is a coalition of free-riders. What would the Democratic Party be without them. Support for Obamacare comes from free-riders.


15 posted on 07/02/2012 9:50:34 AM PDT by pallis
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