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1 posted on 07/01/2012 6:35:27 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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Well I see this as a chance for States to finally stand up to the Federal Government or fail.

If the States fail, then it is a chance for the voters to stand up to Federal Government! If that fails.

If that fails, welcome to Greece!


2 posted on 07/01/2012 6:40:25 PM PDT by Deagle (nOT Get a)
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So by reducing Medicaide states can negate ObamaCare?


3 posted on 07/01/2012 6:45:57 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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Delicious irony-— the Commies got their ObamaScam Healthcare (for now) but the states legally don’t have to enforce it. FUBHO, and your lil henchmen too.


4 posted on 07/01/2012 6:49:18 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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I hope this doesn’t get out.

The passion that has been stirred is great!

I hope RUSH et al don’t digest what happened until after the election.

ObamaCareTax-

Get Roberts!!! BOO!!!!


5 posted on 07/01/2012 6:53:25 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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How about a Constitutional Convention?

There’s a whole lot of things they can fix. It takes 34 states to convene and 38 to ratify if I am not mistaken.

J


8 posted on 07/01/2012 7:10:27 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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And, our IDIOT GOVERNOR is going to take US to RUIN...as the poster child for Obama care and Medicaid expansion...OREGON, of course.


10 posted on 07/01/2012 7:15:01 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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Who has a list of anti-Obamacare states available?

I think so far its Texas, Wisconsin, Louisiana and Florida?


11 posted on 07/01/2012 7:21:24 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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Why on Earth are people missing this? It doesn’t matter. If the States don’t, then the Feds have the right, pursuant to the law, to come in and set it up and the States can’t stop it. This is utterly misguided. We are stuck with it for now so I’d rather have the States run it.

People need to read and stop listening to pundits.


19 posted on 07/01/2012 7:45:33 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Thanks for that.

What it means for me is that I could not morally convict even a bad bad bad man if they added ‘it’s also a hate crime’ to what he did. Hard to imagine acquitting on a clear assault and battery or destruction of property ... or even arson, but if they added ‘oh, and he did it in hate’ so added hate to the charges, and the actual crime and ‘hate’ were conflated in the same charge ... I’d go not-guilty even if 11 to 1 ... even if it made me sick.

I guess then an attendant question would be ‘when hate is included in the charge - are they charged together or separately?’

As a kid I came to know a hypothetical situation where the police falsified the hypothetical confession, and the charges were 10 times the reality. “Hey that’s not what I said!!!!!” The hypothetical kid said as they re-worded his story, writing it down. “Don’t worry, you’ll have a chance to tell you’re story” the hypothetical kid was told. The kid was advised by his lawyer who wasn’t present at the confession to plea based on the ‘facts’ the police had (the confession) ... and were it not for a keen eyed judge who through the case out 2 years later it would have been uglier than it was. Some say ‘a conservative is a liberal mugged by reality’ ... this hypothetical kid was a kid ‘mugged by the police.’ Same outcome but a little more extreme, deep mistrust, grounded in personal experience, for any capital “S” State based on personal history ... of that hypothetical :-) kid of course.

Small town keystone cops and a prosecutor eager for dramatic convictions. The amount of power we give other people is pretty unbelievable. We only truly see that when we’ve been falsely convicted (too late for most people) ... or waited 16 weeks for rationed emergency surgery in Canada ... (at which point it’s really really too late to wake up - dead.)

Arrggggghhhhh. The evil of government really is evil, not just a nuisance to be tolerated. That’s for any who haven’t crossed the threshold from ‘the State is a nuisance - keep it small is a nice principle! Woohoo!’ to ‘The State is a clear and present (meaning now) threatening force in my life at all times, no matter how innocent we are. Only I/we can keep it small, at any cost.’ ... sorry for wandering - it’s a bit of an emotional issue for that ... eh ... hypothetical kid.


30 posted on 07/01/2012 9:20:53 PM PDT by skeama
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BTTT!


34 posted on 07/01/2012 9:40:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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As a States' rights advocate for many years, this obscene ruling by the USSC may be a blessing in disguise.

STATES' RIGHTS!

38 posted on 07/01/2012 10:23:56 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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Chief Justice Roberts stated, “What Congress is not free to do is to penalize States that choose not to participate in that new program by taking away their existing Medicaid funding."

No, but I suppose Congress can TAX States that choose not to participate, right Justice Roberts?

41 posted on 07/02/2012 2:01:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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