Posted on 06/29/2012 10:32:59 AM PDT by buffaloguy
I think it is time for the states to call for a Constitutional Convention. The Congress, the Executive and now the Supreme Court has overstepped their bounds.
For my first amendment:
Each Justice of the Supreme Court shall serve two terms only of two years duration. They shall stand for election by vote of the Electoral College.
Comments: As we see in this SCOTUS decision, the SCOTUS can do so much damage in such a short period that their terms should be reviewed every two years.
Additional Amendment:
Neither the Congress, nor the Executive nor the Courts in aggregate shall expend nor cause to be expended more than 15.6% of Gross Domestic Product in any one year, except in time of war. "Time of War" in this context shall be defined as those armed conflicts in which a Declaration of War has been passed by both Houses of Congress.
Comments: 15.6% has been judged to be an optimal tax rate: Minimum effect on business and maximum contribution to government coffers. This also requires Social Security to be taken from any government control and privatized so that the individual may manage their own accounts. Current returns on SS amounts to 1.4%. Bad, really bad.
What amendments would you like to see passed?
BuffaloGuy
I agree. Good point.
let’s go with it.
What BS! Everytime someone suggests using this means of addressing grievances your type of misinformed idiocy comes out of the woodwork and yelps about a runaway convention or some such rubbish.
There is no chance for an out of control convention process. The Constitution expressly says that it takes 2/3s of states to pass an amendment and 3/4s to ratify it. That means any proposed amendment can fail to be passed by 17 states and any passed amendment can fail to be ratified by 13 states. This requirement shuts down any possibility of an out of control convention.
With a convention, you’re likely to end up with a worse document and they probably won’t bother to follow it either.
This one is not dead yet.
Great idea, but in the current climate with no leaders we’d lose big time.
Smart voters, throw them all out every two or six years.
The lobbiest will not know who to buy off.
Kids, it is the money in the handshake that killed america.
And just who do you think will be delegates to a 21st Century Constitutional Convention? I’ll tell you....Activists of all stripes from Communists to Anarchists, Facists to Liberals, Unionists, radical racists of every color, Reactionaries, Moderate Rinos, etc. How many Conservatives ya think will be there? Few if any.
I’d rethink this preposition were I you. We aren’t gonna find the caliber of men of our first Constitutional Convention by any means. To think we could, is akin to thinking that a modern race horse could be designed by a committee. Get a clue, or there will be a camel in your (and my) future.
“Congress, long ago figured out how to write laws that were difficult, at best, to overturn. “
Not praticualry different when you and the other federal power interest handpick and approve the “judge” of the extent of your own athoirty.
You say the Federal Constitution is fine as is, I respectfully point out that your statement belies that assment if only in its practical effect. We need some from of state level nullification & interposition to balance the greed for power of Washington D.C.
“Congress, long ago figured out how to write laws that were difficult, at best, to overturn. “
Not particularly difficult when you and the other federal power interest handpick and approve the “judge” of the extent of your own athoirty.
You say the Federal Constitution is fine as is, I respectfully point out that your statement belies that assment if only in its practical effect. We need some from of state level nullification & interposition to balance the greed for power of Washington D.C.
There is no reconciling an ideology of international socialist and a constitutional Republic. Split the nation - one free and one...whatever the elite decide.
There is no reconciling an ideology of international socialist and a constitutional Republic. Split the nation - one free and one...whatever the elite decide.
That’s a great idea.
Lets call a Constitutional Convention in a land were ~47% of the population doesn’t pay income tax, where ~40% are on the dole in one form or another; where the majority of the population of has been dumbed down by publik skool.
Lets call a Constitutional Convention in a land where a vast number of idiots think that food, shelter, medical care, and education are RIGHTS, and that they have the right to take the earnings of others to pay for these things, but that nobody has the right so say, or even think something that might be offensive to certain “protected” groups.
I’d love to see the resulting document.
Right, my “misinformed idiocy”. With over half the country on the government dole, I’m sure we’d get exactly what we wanted out of a no-limits constitutional convention.
We need to rewrite the commerce clause.
38 states, enough that there would have to be assent of little flyover states NOT dominated by such demographic, would have to assent to new constitutional provisions.
Not a convention, but perhaps an amendment that absolutely protects the individual’s right not to be compelled to enter into private contracts with another party and not to be forced into purchasing a government service or product.
This decision is purely lawless. Therefore, any individual has the moral basis to resist this government if they choose to do so. The federal government has dissolved its contract with the people.
Thanks for this thread. I agree based on separation of powers, opposition to legislating from the Bench, and - - - well, from another thread, read it for yourself:
Now that Chief Justice John Roberts has destroyed the boundary between the Judiciary and the Legislative Branches of the US Federal Government by changing a legally approved fine into a tax with no vote from the Legislature, there is no limit to what laws the SCOTUS can now reinterpret to their benefit.
The Backdoor conversion of a fine in Obama”care” into a tax by Justice Roberts requires that The People convert the other Rogue rulings of the SOCTUS into rulings consistent with the US Constitution. Obviously this cannot be done by lawyers, as lawyers do not obey laws, they just reinterpret laws to suit themselves.
Obama”care” is the Death Knell for America, and this horrific law was upheld today by our SCOTUS. The People must rewrite the US Constitution so as to restore the System of Checks and Balances between our co-equal branches of Government, first with the Judiciary, and then a severe reduction in the authority of the President.
Since the RINO——Liberal Agenda Media-——Democrat Iron Triangle will always join forces to oppose reversing the decline of America, the State Constitutional Conventions are the non-violent, peaceful Court of Last Resort for Americans who seek greater Liberty than we have now.
“There is no reconciling an ideology of international socialist and a constitutional Republic. Split the nation - one free and one...whatever the elite decide.”
This is perhaps the greatest form of natural justice made possible only by the act of secession and truly constitutional(limited to consent) Government.
As Traitor John said elections have Consequences, well I humbly submit so do Constitutions enumerating the consent of the Governed. We no more voted for this usurpation than we consented to it. This abomination was instead thrust upon us by a mob as Lawless as traitor John’s apparent legislative powers.
I agree much if not most of our population is not only dangerously ignorant of their rights but corrupted by the abuses.
Would you prefer no limits at all? What we have now is a utterly unbound-able Federal government. No man has any freedom whatsoever that is not at arbitrary threat from Washington.
The constitution is never up for a vote. It is supposed to be constant in limiting the power of the elite. The constitution established the Nation and if they can throw it away out of brute power, there is no Nation anymore. Time to remake it and let them go their own way with elitist whim as their guide.
Why bother when the court has already ignored the Constitution that we already have?
Lawyers will pervert any wording that you come up with.
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